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re: Shell drops out of $5 billion dollar Lake Charles, Louisiana LNG project

Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:38 pm to
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Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:38 pm to
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When JBE's second term is up, is someone going to total up the jobs that were lost or shipped out of Louisiana during his time in office?


My excel spreadsheet doesn’t allow enough characters to figure that number out.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:09 pm to
Guys in case you missed an important piece, Energy Transfer (the other half of the 50/50 partnership here) has already stated they will take over and continue the project

I'm no expert on energy and o&g, but it seems this project lost the "brand name" investment of Shell but still continues in some form
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:21 pm to
But but but mah ERL good fo Da state uh Looziana, it be. I git dem ERL awl ova ma skrimps. Ain’t no need to diversistify no neconomy win I gots my ERL!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Guys in case you missed an important piece, Energy Transfer (the other half of the 50/50 partnership here) has already stated they will take over and continue the project


Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:23 pm to
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We are almost out of freaking tanks.
Well, Thanks for your service.

Happy now?
Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Guys in case you missed an important piece, Energy Transfer (the other half of the 50/50 partnership here) has already stated they will take over and continue the project

I'm no expert on energy and o&g, but it seems this project lost the "brand name" investment of Shell but still continues in some form

A couple of things here:
1. Energy Transfer has not, to my knowledge, confirmed that the project is a “go”. My understanding is they pushed the final investment decision back a year.
2. Shell cut their capital spending by 20% in response to the oil market crash. This probably has more to do with managing their risk in the short term than it does with the long term viability of these LNG projects. Remember Shell is, first and foremost, an oil & has production company. Energy Transfer is a midstream transportation company at heart, so it would not surprise me if they find another partner or, possibly, move forward alone.
3. There are multiple LNG projects in the pipeline in Louisiana. Some will move forward, some will not.

I think the biggest thing a lot of folks miss when these projects get “cancelled” is that they were never officially green-lit. Public announcements get made extremely early in the process.. basically as soon as site selection is complete. After that, permitting and FEED still have to take place before a final investment decision is made. That process can take years.

In that timeframe, a lot can happen. Global market outlooks change. Companies’ financial situations change. Mergers & acquisitions happen. But the point is that you can’t “cancel” a project that was never officially green-lit in the first place.
Posted by StarSaint
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:28 pm to
Thats actually a very realistic prediction. Scary times
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:29 pm to
Good take thanks for that
Posted by StarSaint
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:31 pm to
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But but but mah ERL good fo Da state uh Looziana, it be. I git dem ERL awl ova ma skrimps. Ain’t no need to diversistify no neconomy win I gots my ERL!


Lol
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:32 pm to
From BusinessWire:

quote:

Energy Transfer LP (NYSE: ET) announced today that it will take over development of the Lake Charles LNG export project following Shell’s announcement that it has decided not to proceed with an equity investment in the project. Shell advised Energy Transfer that its decision was made in light of current market conditions. Energy Transfer will take over the role of lead project developer and will continue the development of the project. In this regard, Energy Transfer will evaluate various alternatives to advance the project, including the possibility of bringing in one or more equity partners and reducing the size of the project from three trains (16.45 mtpa of LNG capacity) to two trains (11.0 mtpa).


AND FOR SFP:


quote:

"We continue to believe that Lake Charles is the most competitive and credible LNG project on the Gulf Coast," said Tom Mason, Executive Vice President and President - LNG. "Having the ability to capitalize on our existing regasification infrastructure at Lake Charles provides a cost advantage over other proposed LNG projects on the Gulf Coast


LINK
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:32 pm to
Boogie melting because he’s got 1 less company to sue. Baw might end up having to practice real law.
Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Energy Transfer LP (NYSE: ET) announced today that it will take over development of the Lake Charles LNG export project following Shell’s announcement that it has decided not to proceed with an equity investment in the project. Shell advised Energy Transfer that its decision was made in light of current market conditions. Energy Transfer will take over the role of lead project developer and will continue the development of the project. In this regard, Energy Transfer will evaluate various alternatives to advance the project, including the possibility of bringing in one or more equity partners and reducing the size of the project from three trains (16.45 mtpa of LNG capacity) to two trains (11.0 mtpa).

Right. So they haven’t made a final investment decision.
Posted by JasonL79
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:43 pm to
It was likely Shell was going to withdraw before the recent oil crash. This just pushed that decision.

Hopefully some of these mega projects that were on the verge of FID will start moving forward next year. Was supposed to be a huge year for mega projects and changed pretty quick.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:57 pm to
So honest question. Where should us current Southern LA residents be looking to move? Can Houston handle us all, assuming we have a healthy work ethic?
Posted by down time
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:04 pm to
In my opinion, no, not without some type of energy rally.

And as for the original topic, this project stops at FEL3 I would guess.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 9:06 pm
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