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Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:14 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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It’s almost exclusively white liberal women.
That's a meme, and they are almost assuredly the majority, but "almost exclusively" is almost assuredly wrong. If you don't believe me, look at the voting trends of black women and their child output compared to white women (especially educated/higher class white women).
Demographics play a role, but partisan ideology isn't a dominant one. It's more of a secondary one.
Intelligence, class, income, geographic location, etc. are much more dominant demographics.
The bias that creates the meme is that more middle/upper-middle class people make the statement I quoted, and they're around more middle/middle-upper class people almost exclusively and they completely ignore the classes below them who are having the most children of all cohorts.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:01 am to Darth_Vader
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The US, along with most of Western Civilization, has shrunk their birth rates so low they have reached the point of unsustainably.
There is a well-documented phenomenon that birth rates plummet as countries attain first-world status and women enter the workforce.
In an urban environment, kids are mostly a liability (financially speaking) and put a drain on family resources and time.
We are not turning the clock back and sending women back to stay home and be barefoot and pregnant.
You can seethe about it but that is the new reality.
We will adjust, adapt, and overcome. The death of the infinite growth paradigm of line must go up will be good for us and the planet.
There will be short term pain however.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:06 am to RLDSC FAN
Just like in real estate, there is an entire industry on social media that exists to scare people about childless women.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:07 am to RLDSC FAN
Idk about most other people but my wife and I haven't and likely won't have kids for the following factors....
1) Her health issues make it somewhat unlikely that we could get pregnant, carry to term and deliver a healthy child. Just don't want to pay the fortune it would cost on fertility treatments to make it happen.
2) We utilize our time investing in others around us by leading church small groups, volunteering, leading mission trips, etc. We wouldn't nearly be able to do all that with kids.
3) Neither of us feel a burning desire to have kids in general.
1) Her health issues make it somewhat unlikely that we could get pregnant, carry to term and deliver a healthy child. Just don't want to pay the fortune it would cost on fertility treatments to make it happen.
2) We utilize our time investing in others around us by leading church small groups, volunteering, leading mission trips, etc. We wouldn't nearly be able to do all that with kids.
3) Neither of us feel a burning desire to have kids in general.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:39 am to Odysseus32
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I know myself and I know that when that kid comes I'm going to need therapy to be able to take time for myself. It's going to be all about them and I want to make sure I don't feel like I've failed them in that regard
jesus, talk about the poster child of mental health problems plaguing our country
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:42 am to Pax Regis
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Today’s modern woman doesn’t have the capacity to be focused on anything but self.
I tend to agree. Except focusing solely on modern women is kind of like putting the Fall of Man all on Eve. Adam fricked up and blamed God and Eve instead of being accountable and taking responsibility.
It’s not just modern women. Guys too prioritize towards self. I knew a guy who spent bundles on hunting and fishing. Boats, tackle, trips.
I can’t imagine what he spent on taxidermy alone, particularly on Turkeys. He had a son and was getting clipped. A decision his wife was not full onboard with, if I’m remembering correctly.
A co-worker had two and his wife was pregnant with their third. During a friendly discussion over lunch the back and forth was enlightening.
The guy with the third on the way made the point that we all had plenty enough money and resources, it was really a question of where and how those resources were directed.
Maybe less spent on self made other options possible.
I think that’s right. Children are a great blessing. But self sacrifice comes with the job.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:44 am to jclem11
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In an urban environment, kids are mostly a liability (financially speaking) and put a drain on family resources and time.
I thought you were just a dumbass in the truck thread now I know you are a selfish piece of shite
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:45 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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It’s almost exclusively white liberal women.
The most privileged people on the planet.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:00 am to Midtiger farm
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In an urban environment, kids are mostly a liability (financially speaking) and put a drain on family resources and time.
I thought you were just a dumbass in the truck thread
Urbanites are detached from nature and have no natural intuition. Their lives are a litany of pop culture and corporate lifestyles.
They surround themselves with pleasure, because they have no human intuition.
Humans have one literal task on this earth, and they cant manage it.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:05 am to jclem11
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We will adjust, adapt, and overcome. The death of the infinite growth paradigm of line must go up will be good for us and the planet.
While I appreciate the optimistic sentiment and hopeful attitude here, there is no precedent for a stagnant society producing high standards of living in human history that I am aware of. There is no path to a “post-growth” global economy that doesn’t result in a lot of starvation and death, imo.
I think the more likely “figure it out” path is just to keep growing with the resources available on this planet while working in the background on the scientific advances to either regenerate those resources or discover new ones.
When there is no growth, life becomes a zero sum game, literally.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 9:09 am
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:05 am to CaptainsWafer
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There’s nothing wrong with people not wanting kids. It’s better for everyone if they don’t have them, rather than having kids they didn’t want in the first place.
There’s nothing necessarily wrong with an individual deciding not to have children. If society itself becomes anti-natalist, the only way you can say there is nothing wrong with that is if you want your civilization overall to suffer and stagnate.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:07 am to Earnest_P
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the only way you can say there is nothing wrong with that is if you want your civilization overall to suffer and stagnate.
Childless by choice people literally have no stake in the long term future.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:12 am to Midtiger farm
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I thought you were just a dumbass in the truck thread now I know you are a selfish piece of shite
The replies to me are always ad homs and never actually refute my argument.
So many snowflakes on the OT.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:13 am to Crowknowsbest
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We will adjust, adapt, and overcome. The death of the infinite growth paradigm of line must go up will be good for us and the planet.
While I appreciate the optimistic sentiment and hopeful attitude here, there is no precedent for a stagnant society producing high standards of living in human history that I am aware of. There is no path to a “post-growth” global economy that doesn’t result in a lot of starvation and death, imo.
I think the more likely “figure it out” path is just to keep growing with the resources available on this planet while working in the background on the scientific advances to either regenerate those resources or discover new ones.
There still we be growth but its in mulim and sub Saharan African populations that our politician will import to the west
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:14 am to Aspercel
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It’s not only liberal women choosing not to have kids. Just saying.
That’s generally the consensus on here so I wanted to clear that up.
bullshite, tell that to the Ballerina Farms lady. Left is losing their mind over her for simply wanting to be a mother with a lot of kids in a way that fits her family's lifestyle.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:16 am to jclem11
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The replies to me are always ad homs and never actually refute my argument
No child is a burden on anyone - that refutes your argument
You actually think a city should have nothing but small compact cars and bikes and single people and DINKs. Thats a horrible society that provides nothing to the world
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:18 am to SaintTiger80
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Kids were raised on dirt poor farms all across America for hundreds of years.
This is coming again, if the dollar stops being the dominant reserve currency of the world.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:30 am to RLDSC FAN
Nah. Maybe later.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:35 am to jizzle6609
Idk because African Americans are still having tons of kids and they vote overwhelmingly democratic.
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