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re: Share of young adults, especially women, who are "unlikely" to have kids is surging

Posted on 7/25/24 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36899 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 5:43 pm to
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But it's just too expensive to afford medical care, afford child care, send kids to private school, save for retirement, and live in a nice house. Again, not complaining. We are early-mid 30s, so if it doesn't happen soon it probably won't. We are okay with that. I'd rather be comfortable with my wife than uncomfortable with a family I can't support the way I would like.


You can never make enough money to be “ready” to have kids. Waiting is never ending game. Some of the most successful people in our society came from normal humble homes. Stop comparing to the jones on what “stability” looks like.

Kids actually don’t need all that much other than loving parents to be as happy as can be.

You can never get the time back if you keep delaying, though.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 5:44 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 5:50 pm to
Kids are work. This surprises you about the younger generation?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36899 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 5:52 pm to
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Nursing homes should be invested in heavily. There will be a lot of women folk headed there because they have no one to take care of them when they get old.


Not nursing homes, but “retirement senior living” type facilities with Taylor Swift theme nights and other social mediable events every night, constantly group travel around the world, wine tastings etc. are going to be a huge moneymaker in the future for the absolute glut of childress single women with huge amounts of disposable income in 20-30 years.

start thinking of ways to monetize this group of people in the near future.

they will want to spend money and show off their “fun” lives to prove not having kids and “loving themselves” was “worth it”
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7546 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:03 pm to
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my wife is a super-caring person and if any boy or girl that fits this bill is visiting/spending the night with our little boy, they get attention, food, she makes sure they take a bath before bed, often she's cutting their hair (she's a master barber),


Requesting play date. For me.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3051 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 7:04 pm to
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My wife and I talk about having kids, but it's just too expensive.

We aren't blaming anyone for it. We got late starts in life, I didn't go back to school to get a better job until I was 28. HHI this year will be right at $100K, but I'm not having a kid and putting them into the public school system here. There are so many moments in my life that I could have made a different decision and I might currently be strung out or in jail, most of those decisions coming during middle school and high school.

But it's just too expensive to afford medical care, afford child care, send kids to private school, save for retirement, and live in a nice house.

Again, not complaining. We are early-mid 30s, so if it doesn't happen soon it probably won't. We are okay with that. I'd rather be comfortable with my wife than uncomfortable with a family I can't support the way I would like.

You two sound conscientious and thoughtful…exactly like the type of people who should be having kids.

And if I may say so, if you were to end up having more kids than you think you can afford at the moment, you also sound like the type of people who would figure it out and be good parents.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10673 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:56 pm to
[quote]Today’s modern woman doesn’t have the capacity to be focused on anything but self.[/quoteThen why do women do majority of hold rearing and work careers?
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
1954 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:10 pm to
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Japan has had similar issues


South Korea has a replacement rate of .72 - lowest in the world. They won't have the population for economic growth or social services in the coming decades. Not good to be a baby in South Korea today...
Posted by BLM
ATL
Member since Oct 2011
778 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:28 pm to
Stupid. Productivity decline will decimate our economy. This country will be no more.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53612 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:34 am to
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Stupid. Productivity decline will decimate our economy. This country will be no more.


Well aren’t you just a ray of fricking sunshine
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7139 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:18 am to
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I tend to be in the Elon Musk/Jordan Peterson camp on parenthood


Elon Musk, along with other Billionaires, just want a work force. They see the middle of the country and want to fill it with people and factories and cities.

There's plenty of people on this planet. Do we want the US to turn into India? There's only so much food and resources available.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17476 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:21 am to
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Not nursing homes, but “retirement senior living” type facilities


Touché LaFleur
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22895 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:22 am to
I have no problem with people who would make shitty parents not having kids.
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
2346 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:41 am to
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they will want to spend money and show off their “fun” lives to prove not having kids and “loving themselves” was “worth it”


Whenever I read something like this I always picture that dad that’ll never tell you he has some serious regrets, but there are signs…. . Popped out 2,3,4,5 kids real early on, with a woman who isn’t remotely the same person she was at 19, probably flipping every pay check directly to her by age 25. Miserable, trapped, angry at anyone having fun or spending money on things non childcare. Don’t worry bro, you’ll get the last laugh when all your kids move you into the same retirement living facility as the swifties
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85872 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:44 am to
We’re not at all straining food and resources in this country.

A reduced regulatory burden in the next administration will clearly show this once again.

Huge gulf between steady growth and becoming India.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85872 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:45 am to
Despite the trope of the miserable dad, i very very rarely see the healthy, happy 40s or 50s childfree man, and I doubt anyone else does either.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:46 am to
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That's short sighted at best. Same thing happened in Europe and look what they had to import to fill job vacancies.


Continual growth is not sustainable, anywhere.

Seems this is a market correction of sorts with folks wanting kids.

What's really short sighted is blindly criticizing people who wouldn't make good parents or raise quality kids for not having kids.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:47 am to
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Productivity decline will decimate our economy. This country will be no more.


GDP is rising well ahead of worker hours, might want to think on how that's possible.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72011 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:03 am to
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Today’s modern woman doesn’t have the capacity to be focused on anything but self.


It’s sad that 13 people downvoted this and 15 upvoted it. Look at our education, media, entertainment, and advertising. Everywhere you look the message is about putting you and your wants first and foremost. This is especially true for women. They’re encouraged from almost birth to be completely self-absorbed to the point of narcissism.

Many here, or at least 13 of them, don’t want to admit this truth. So while they can case their useless downvote on what you said, what they can’t do is refute it.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72011 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:07 am to
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There's plenty of people on this planet. Do we want the US to turn into India? There's only so much food and resources available.


The US, along with most of Western Civilization, has shrunk their birth rates so low they have reached the point of unsustainably. The notion we have an overpopulation problem is a myth.
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