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Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:38 pm to chadr07
How do you know it’s the truth, like absolutely truth besides faith, which is just a step above hope. Why is it God only gets credit for the good things in life but doesn’t have to take responsibility for the bad things?
Posted on 10/27/26 at 2:41 pm to UGATiger26
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Those are difficult enough concepts to grapple with, but you also have to deal with the fact that God intervening to stop every evil act would effectively rob us of our free will. We could commit no wrong; only right. We'd be automatons; robots.
If that were the case, we couldn't even call good "good." It would just be...nothing. Not bad. Not good. It would just be what humans are "allowed" to do. If I can only help people and not hurt them, then what would even be commendable or virtuous about helping them? We may as well commend dogs for barking.
God doesn't want that. He wants people who choose love out of their own volition; not because it's impossible to commit wrong.
That's the whole point of love -- that I can choose love over hatred. That I can forgive instead of seek revenge. That I can sacrifice my own selfish wants and desires for the good of another.
As parent, I choose to sometimes not intervene, even when I know my children are probably not making the wisest choice....of course its determined by the severity of the consequences. The God of the Bible or any creator that one believes is interventionist , certainly hasnt leveled the playing field from birth for its children and introduced the many to a brutal existence all the while expecting them to learn to love their fellow man. The consequences for not learning the lessons he commands is to be damned for all eternity. As far the innocent that are subject to the cruelty of this world....they are on their own to endure it. This does not make sense to me...so Im left with just accepting what I'm being told is God's nature, even though it makes no sense to me....or reject it.
Thanks for the dialogue
Posted on 10/27/26 at 2:47 pm to Eurocat
Just throw them in a meat grinder, take their remains out to the ocean and feed the sharks.
This is one of the worst cases I think I've ever heard about.
That poor little girl.
This is one of the worst cases I think I've ever heard about.
That poor little girl.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 2:52 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
quote:No really provocative, it is kinda the cornerstone of Christianity
Provocative thought: if there is a loving and compassionate God, why does he let children suffer through things like this?
Most innocent person in the course of human history is tortured, suffers, and dies for the sins of man
Suffering isn't a punishment, it is part of the state of humanity
Posted on 10/27/26 at 3:59 pm to Shexter
That wasn't the mom. That was the lady who was granted custody for whatever reason. Fukcing sick 
Posted on 10/27/26 at 4:17 pm to UGATiger26
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We experience evil in this fallen world because WE (not God) have told God to step aside. But God, as loving as he is, has a plan to redeem us and bring us back to Paradise with him.
One of the ways we do this is by partnering with God to start building his Kingdom here and now -- why wait?
And you are absolutely right...one of the ways we do that is to protect others from evil, which is an expression of love.
Yes, no reason to wait. Also not saying there should be no evil or hardship.
But children; the weakest, most vulnerable, and most innocent among us. Entirely dependent on and at the mercy of whomever the find themselves in the care of. God doesn't draw a line there. If you're not going to draw a line there, you're not going to draw a line anywhere.
And if God is not going to stop that, then we are on own (beyond what we have been innately bestowed with), and there's going be innocents that get caught on the wrong side of it because there's some among us that aren't worth the air they get to breathe.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 4:44 pm to mudshuvl05
The handful of folks on here typing paragraphs of total nonsense and thinking that it makes them look like an authority on God and that they have it all figured out as to the excuses necessary to explain why it appears there never is an intervening God, and hasn’t been for centuries
are really pathetic people, and come across to me as psychotic.
are really pathetic people, and come across to me as psychotic.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 7:15 pm to Eurocat
This is probably somehow the fault of anti-abortion republicans.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 1:48 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Are you provoking Theists or being thought provoking?
So on one hand, a benevolent God must not exist if he fails to intervene in this sort of evil and likewise, he must not be a benevolent God because he does intervene and destroys the Canaanites for their evil and devotion to infant sacrifice.
It’s an ironic contradiction to explain away a God you likely don’t believe exists in the first place.
(Maybe more provocative-given the barbarous, cruel, and evil world we live in and where horrific things like this happen with almost numbing regularity-how and why did the idea of a benevolent God ever arise?)
So on one hand, a benevolent God must not exist if he fails to intervene in this sort of evil and likewise, he must not be a benevolent God because he does intervene and destroys the Canaanites for their evil and devotion to infant sacrifice.
It’s an ironic contradiction to explain away a God you likely don’t believe exists in the first place.
(Maybe more provocative-given the barbarous, cruel, and evil world we live in and where horrific things like this happen with almost numbing regularity-how and why did the idea of a benevolent God ever arise?)

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