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re: Serious questions about spending priorities at LSU.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:12 am to Slippy
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:12 am to Slippy
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Does it bother you that state funding has put LSU into a giant hole financially that it is having to dig its way out of? Do things like faculty salaries even make a blip on your radar screen?
The funding problem is due to too many hands in the cookie jar. We support too many universities in the state that don't produce much of any value.
Faculty should be paid what they're worth. Top researchers' salaries, who makes advances in science, should dwarf those english lit professors.
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:12 am to Slippy
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Do you care that there are academic buildings on campus with the ceilings caving in, that can be fully renovated for $15 million, but we just spent $90 million on a new south endzone? (Please spare me the speeches about return on investment, I know all of that.)
People like you need to quit running your mouth about the athletic department. They are self sufficient and get no money from the university but instead give millions back.
The university has nothing to do with the athletic departments finances.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:14 am to Slippy
I think Les Miles, the athletic department and TAF should "share the wealth" with the academic department. Stop being so greedy.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:17 am to Slippy
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your internet anonymity
What's that?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:18 am to Slippy
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but does the disparity of the money spent illustrate that our priorities are monumentally out of whack?
No, because the money spent on athletics is generated by the athletics themselves apart from any state funding. They give money back to the university 5mil a year if I remember correctly. The way to make more money for the university is to create something that generates money like novel techniques or products that can be patented.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:19 am to Slippy
The athletic department is a self sufficient entity that not only donates a significant amount of money to the school, provides a national brand and marketability to the school, and had enough foresight to reinvest current funds to increase revenue and profit in the future. It's kind of hard to complain about that.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:19 am to Slippy
I think LSU should be better academically than it is. I think it is underfunded and run by incompetent people who are ok with the status quo.
Of course I care as an alumnus.
Of course I care as an alumnus.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:19 am to Slippy
I'm fine with cutting some academic programs that don't pull their weight or have any real future. I think it is stupid to bitch about a huge stadium renovation when all the money comes from private donations and that athletic department even dumps millions of dollars back into the academic side. It is silly to say we could have redid these buildings instead of built a new addition to the stadium because the stadium addition didn't take any funds from other buildings. IMO during tougher economic times I'm ok with diverting funds from bad majors and putting them into breadwinners for the university. Then when times are good again we could expand the majors offered, or a alum can step up and save a major if its on the chopping block.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:19 am to More beer please
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Do you care that there are academic buildings on campus with the ceilings caving in, that can be fully renovated for $15 million, but we just spent $90 million on a new south endzone? (Please spare me the speeches about return on investment, I know all of that.)
People like you need to quit running your mouth about the athletic department. They are self sufficient and get no money from the university but instead give millions back.
The university has nothing to do with the athletic departments finances.
BOOM, MOTHERfrickER!
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:19 am to pointdog33
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The way to make more money for the university is to create something that generates money like novel techniques or products that can be patented.
Is it too late for another Gatorade?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:20 am to notiger1997
The new Patrick F. Taylor Renovation (CEBA) is being funded by 50 million from the state and another 50 million from outside state money. I was part of the fund raising from private investors and large companies. LSU's Engineering college is almost self sufficient from donations from companies and Alumni. The engineering programs here are some of the best in the nation for the amount students pay. The Petroleum department is ranked in the top 10 in the world. 
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:20 am to magildachunks
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Why did we need a new Business school? CEBA isn't bad. Money would have been better spent rehabbing that.
They ran out of room for both business and engineering in the one building. Also, they are rehabbing the existing building...and expanding because.....they ran out of room.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:20 am to Btrtigerfan
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My thoughts: GFY. DIAF. Once the art department can produce something that can support itself, then they can have a new ceiling.
Lol. OP used "LSU" as a cover to talk about the shitty art dept. our campus is outstanding. No one gives a shite about art.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:21 am to lrabor3
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The new Patrick F. Taylor Renovation (CEBA) is being funded by 100 million from the state and another 100 million from outside state money.
No, it's 100 total.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:21 am to pointdog33
You need to address Mr. Beryani as he controls the money for LSU! All the Oil Shale Gas and Oil and $100 a Barrel there should be plenty of money in the State Budget
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:22 am to Slippy
quote:Financially, they pretty much are.
if you think academics and athletics are completely separate universes.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:23 am to heartbreakTiger
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a huge stadium renovation when all the money comes from private donations
Do you think it's nuts that our athletic department can collect so many more "private donations" than the university itself?
Sure, at the end it comes down to people's personal priorities.... where they want to put their dollars. That's more or less what I'm getting at. People care more about athletics. They just do.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:23 am to lrabor3
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The new Patrick F. Taylor Renovation (CEBA) is being funded by 100 million from the state and another 100 million from outside state money.
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I was part of the fund raising from private investors and large companies.
Then you of all people should know that it's $53 million from private sources and the state will match that. It's a little over $100 million total.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:23 am to Slippy
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Do you, as an LSU fan and TD poster, really care about anything that happens on the academic side of LSU?
of course I do
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Does it bother you that state funding has put LSU into a giant hole financially that it is having to dig its way out of?
what bothers me is a state constitution that only allows the Governor to cut funding to State Universities and State Hospitals to manage the budget
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Do things like faculty salaries even make a blip on your radar screen?
yeah and so does a tenure system that allows shitty professors to hang around when they dont contribute anything to the academic side nor the research side of the University
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Do you care that there are academic buildings on campus with the ceilings caving in,
except all of the turmoil on campus for years because of construction and renovation projects. Late 80s/early 90s LSU facilities were shitty, now they are beautiful for the most part.
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that can be fully renovated for $15 million, but we just spent $90 million on a new south endzone?
who is we? TAF? the stadium has nothing to do with the school budget
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:24 am to junkfunky
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They ran out of room for both business and engineering in the one building. Also, they are rehabbing the existing building...and expanding because.....they ran out of room.
Trust me, you could have done away with the Business School and probably been fine.
Or move them to a pre-existing building.
I really don't care. But just threw that out there for the OP to get his mind off the SEZ expansion.
Also: We may have too many people going through engineering. That program used to weed people out through attrition. Now it seems like everybody graduating is an engineer of some sort.
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