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re: Serious Question: Would anyone here fly on a SpaceX rocket?

Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:24 pm to
They are far past those failures.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:26 pm to
I’d fly on Falcon 9 no question but the Starship isn’t quite ready for prime time yet.

They’ll get it all sorted out soon enough
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:29 pm to
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Has Starship truly ever had a 100% successful flight?) I've said as much on this board before. The more rockets that DON'T have successful missions, the more I'm puzzled by it. How hard would it be NOT to rush these to flight, working on the engineering and do ground based flight sims?


SpaceX doesn’t consider these “failures” at all. They learn from them and go fix things instead of spending a decade plus trying to get things right the first time. It’s an objectively faster and cheaper way to design a rocket. SpaceX has already proven this and it’s the reason they are decades ahead of all the competition.

The best engineers on the planet work for SpaceX. I say we let them do their thing
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:34 pm to
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SpaceX doesn’t consider these “failures” at all.


That's kind of my point you know. The question, for those smart enough to figure it out, is really about their engineering approach.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:39 pm to
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The question, for those smart enough to figure it out, is really about their engineering approach.


Why wouldn’t it be? They did the same thing with Falcon 9 a couple decades ago and that turned out to be the most successful and prolific rocket in history. It currently sends about 80% of all payload to space WORLDWIDE. Think about that, that includes Europe, China India and other commercial competitors.

So, this design process has worked for them before and there’s no reason to think it won’t work again.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:40 pm to
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How hard would it be NOT to rush these to flight, working on the engineering and do ground based flight sims?


Government spends endless amounts on studies and the like and it takes forever and then some to get anything done.

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They learn from them and go fix things instead of spending a decade plus trying to get things right the first time.


Software guys build a program with chewed up gum and popsicle sticks and then debug and improve. Rinse, repeat, and you end up with reusable rockets resulting in the least expensive space flight in history.
Posted by MsState of mind
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:40 pm to
It takes NASA five years in between test flights because they don’t want anything to fail where SpaceX builds one sees what goes wrong and fixes it on the next one and fires another one off two months later.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21667 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:42 pm to
There is a good reason that only about 10 or so of the around 10,000 applicants a year actually become astronauts.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:43 pm to
I really do enjoy all of the armchair rocket scientists on this board. It’s a gift of comedy.
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
117392 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:43 pm to
frick it. Whats life without risk??
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19813 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:45 pm to
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They did the same thing with Falcon 9 a couple decades ago and that turned out to be the most successful and prolific rocket in history.

Has a lower launch success rate than the delta 2, and has never delivered a payload to another planet.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8013 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:45 pm to
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It's a dumb question.


Is it? I mean, manned or not, they are building a track record and I'm not sure it's good.


A dumb statement. These are tests of reusable launch system to get to Mars not just getting to the ISS which the Dragon and falcon seem to be handling well with the crew version and the cargo version.

For starship the block 1 had 4 successes to 2 failures. The failures were the first two flight tests which is where we are on block 2.

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:49 pm to
This is a poor attempt at a troll thread.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:50 pm to
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Personally, I think Musk is brilliant. But it also puzzles me that he has so much money that SpaceX's mode of operation is to simply build things to fail.


It's faster than thousands of meetings arguing theory.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:51 pm to
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That’s not a serious question.


I'm confused as there have already been yes and no answers so the answer is not self-evident.

I, for one, would go on SpaceX, Blue Origin, or Virgin Galactic if the flight were free, but I tend to be less risk-averse on the adventure side than most.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21667 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:55 pm to
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Has a lower launch success rate than the delta 2

Just from Google AI so the numbers may not be correct, but they say you're wrong:
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The Delta II rocket family had a mission success rate of nearly 98.7%, with 155 total launches and only a few failures, most notably the GPS IIR-1 launch in 1997 which marked its last unsuccessful mission before a streak of 100 consecutive successful launches; making it considered a very reliable workhorse rocket.

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The active version of the rocket, the Falcon 9 Block 5, has flown 390 times successfully and failed once (Starlink Group 9–3), resulting in the 99.74% success rate. In 2022, the Falcon 9 set a new record with 60 successful launches by the same launch vehicle type in a calendar year.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:56 pm to
Without hesitation... thats got to be the greatest ride evAr (not including your mother)
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17639 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:57 pm to
The one that actually carries people is pretty damn solid
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
99871 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:58 pm to
Not a serious question.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10198 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:02 pm to
So you only show prototype Starship test rockets doing their test things, and not human rated Falcons and Dragons successfully launching and landing?
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