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re: Seeing a lot of "mental health" posts here and in the news in general
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:20 am to kingbob
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:20 am to kingbob
What's more infuriating about scenarios like that, is that you absolutely KNOW what your brain is telling you isn't true.
It's a wild experience to be sitting there arguing with your own brain/body KNOWING what you're brain is telling you isn't true, yet you can't shake the feeling.
Now all of your emotional energy and brainpower is spent dealing with all that internal bull shite versus actually functioning at work or a social event.
It's one of the things I'm grateful for when talking about newer generations is their "we don't give a frick what people say, we need to address it" approach to mental health issues.
Posters like the OP are the truest definition of being willfully ignorant on the subject.
Which is ironic considering their mocking of people trying to better themselves mentally is an internal conflict that exists because they refuse to address their own internal issues. Their parents failed them greatly on that front.
It's a wild experience to be sitting there arguing with your own brain/body KNOWING what you're brain is telling you isn't true, yet you can't shake the feeling.
Now all of your emotional energy and brainpower is spent dealing with all that internal bull shite versus actually functioning at work or a social event.
It's one of the things I'm grateful for when talking about newer generations is their "we don't give a frick what people say, we need to address it" approach to mental health issues.
Posters like the OP are the truest definition of being willfully ignorant on the subject.
Which is ironic considering their mocking of people trying to better themselves mentally is an internal conflict that exists because they refuse to address their own internal issues. Their parents failed them greatly on that front.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:20 am to sidewalkside
I deal with pretty severe anxiety. I push through it, but there are those bad moments. I wouldn’t call myself feeble or weak, it’s just something that I have and try to manage as best I can.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:21 am to sidewalkside
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It will not stop for you and rub your head until you feel better. there is nobody to blame for your issues (or successes) other than yourself
And how does this jive with 90% of your other threads where you complain that libs and the government have destroyed our country and everything sucks now?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:23 am to sidewalkside
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deal with it
That's what people ARE doing, but you are calling them soft for it.
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it's funny how everyone assumes I have not been through these things
No, people are rightfully calling you out for being an arse hole. People deal with their issues as best they can to overcome them.
If your approach worked for you, great. Some people can't address it as simply as you claim you do.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:23 am to Smoke7024
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think most of them know they're the problem themselves.
No one sees themselves as more selfless and altruistic than the suicidal. They HATE themselves, they see themselves as the problem, and believe that taking their own life is a SELFLESS act.
See, one common misconception is that suicide happens because people are selfish and want to end their suffering at the expense of others. This is FALSE the overwhelming majority of the time. Suicidal people see themselves as burdens on the people in their lives. They feel helpless to fix themselves and don’t like seeing the emotional and physical toll their problems have on others. They see removing themselves as a kindness to the others in their lives that are currently helping take care of them. Prolonging their lives is wasting resources and burdening others unnecessarily, so they end their lives to spare others the trouble of dealing with them.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:24 am to dcrews
quote:this is the insanity of OCD. The obsessing about the illogical.
What's more infuriating about scenarios like that, is that you absolutely KNOW what your brain is telling you isn't true.
It's a wild experience to be sitting there arguing with your own brain/body KNOWING what you're brain is telling you isn't true, yet you can't shake the feeling.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:27 am to TigerIron
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It seems like "focusing on mental health" actually just makes more people feel like they have mental health problems
There are definitely people who "abuse" the new focus on mental health. But there's also a lot to unpack for entire generations since most of us were told "you're fine" "suck it up", etc... for 20-30+ years. Now that we can actually look inward without being lambasted, we're finding a lot of shite we've simply ignored for decades.
You can seem really healthy until you make your first doctor visit after 25 years of not going. Then all of a sudden they tell you everything that you've been ignoring is causing major issues
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I tend to think that exercise, eating better, sleeping better, and spending less time on social media would probably have more benefit on average for more people than therapy and / or meds.
Absolutely. There are positive biological side effects of doing these activities. I think pairing them with modern medicine is a good start to improving yourself.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:29 am to sidewalkside
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I deal with anxiety and depression but guess what...life goes on and the world does not care. Deal with it and keep your life moving. I will never understand people who are crippled with anxiety and so feeble and weak that they can't handle basic life matters like speaking to another human and looking them in the eye.
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sidewalkside
Just curious, how old are you?
Are you on any rx meds?
Do you have kids, wife, job, house, own your own business?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:29 am to dcrews
If your approach worked for you, great. Some people can't address it as simply as you claim you do.
This is really important. What works for one person won’t work for another. Heck, what works for one person in one situation might not work AT ALL the next time. Mental health is such a weird and dynamic thing.
I have been struggling A LOT lately simply because I spent years developing all of these different techniques and coping mechanisms through therapy and trial and error, and a lot of them simply are not working anymore. I keep throwing techniques and strategies at the wall and nothing that worked 2 years ago is working at all right now. I’ll probably be going back to therapy soon if only for this reason.
Nothing like being sane enough to not be locked up and have to work a real job, but too crazy to be capable of doing anything well enough or consistently enough to keep living wage work in this insane economy where food has tripled in price and most bills doubled while pay has been flat the last 3 years.
People talk about things now because talk therapy is statistically the most effective mental health treatment that doesn’t involve drugs. Exercise, sunlight, mindfulness, fostering closer relationships with friends and family, religion, sobriety, getting the right amount of sleep, etc are all recommended because they have the highest probability to work, or at least improve the situation, but nothing is bulletproof.
This is really important. What works for one person won’t work for another. Heck, what works for one person in one situation might not work AT ALL the next time. Mental health is such a weird and dynamic thing.
I have been struggling A LOT lately simply because I spent years developing all of these different techniques and coping mechanisms through therapy and trial and error, and a lot of them simply are not working anymore. I keep throwing techniques and strategies at the wall and nothing that worked 2 years ago is working at all right now. I’ll probably be going back to therapy soon if only for this reason.
Nothing like being sane enough to not be locked up and have to work a real job, but too crazy to be capable of doing anything well enough or consistently enough to keep living wage work in this insane economy where food has tripled in price and most bills doubled while pay has been flat the last 3 years.
People talk about things now because talk therapy is statistically the most effective mental health treatment that doesn’t involve drugs. Exercise, sunlight, mindfulness, fostering closer relationships with friends and family, religion, sobriety, getting the right amount of sleep, etc are all recommended because they have the highest probability to work, or at least improve the situation, but nothing is bulletproof.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:36 am
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:31 am to kingbob
There are not enough upvotes for the amount of truth in that post.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:32 am to sidewalkside
you are the most ignorant low life scum on here. you think youre some tough guy. You are just mentally unable to process real world. You are too uneducated.
You either work in plant or construction. 100 percent would bet my life.
You either work in plant or construction. 100 percent would bet my life.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:35 am to sidewalkside
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WRONG. I never said people are weak for wanting to seek help or talk about things. Go for it. It's great. It works. It's the people who wallow in their own misery and can't get out of their own way I have issues with. the world does not care. It will not stop for you and rub your head until you feel better. there is nobody to blame for your issues (or successes) other than yourself
People openly talking about mental health is not expecting the world to stop for you. Or blaming others for their issues. They're talking about it because people need to know that they're not alone in dealing with those issues on a clinical level.
People having mental health issues that are more significant than yours does not mean they are soft. Not everyone can just "move passed" anxiety and depression with ease. A pill doesn't always just "fix" their issues. The brain doesn't work that way.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:36 am to sidewalkside
I'm with you. News flash the world is not fair and it doesn't care. Suicide is a permeant solution to a temporary problem.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:36 am to sidewalkside
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but you DEALT WITH IT and kept your life moving and thats awesome. some people live their entire lives in fear of being offended by something or someone.
you dont even know what the frick you are saying now old man. You are the worst. pray your kids dont get depressed.
Jk we will be the ones to help bc we arent hiding behind being a tough guy
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:36 am to sidewalkside
How do you feel about microdosing MDMA?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:37 am to sidewalkside
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I deal with anxiety and depression but guess what...life goes on and the world does not care. Deal with it and keep your life moving. I will never understand people who are crippled with anxiety and so feeble and weak that they can't handle basic life matters like speaking to another human and looking them in the eye.
I for the most part agree with this. I struggle with anxiety and occasional depression, especially in winter, and it is worse now with some sleep deprivation and work stress.
I allow myself to be upset for a bit, then I finally say to myself, “frick all that, time to get up and bitch slap life”.
But for all these teen and college kids that can’t deal with anything, whooo boy, they have some tough sledding ahead — it damn sure doesn’t get easier in life.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:38 am to sidewalkside
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sidewalkside
only drunks use this tactic. He is clearly an alcoholic
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:39 am to tylerlsu2008
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they have some tough sledding ahead — it damn sure doesn’t get easier in life.
So isn’t it a good thing that they’re seemingly seeking help early on?
My 20’s were a straight up bloodbath of suffering and setbacks, foring me to completely reboot my life at 28. If I had gotten the therapy I needed as a teen instead of at 30, I probably could’ve avoided a LOT of unnecessary suffering and struggles.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:39 am to kingbob
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kingbob
Haven't you stated before you are on the spectrum and have ADHD or something similar? Just curious if there was something you wish your parents would have done different when you were younger? It may have been a different poster I'm thinking of. My brother is in this situation with my nephew who is a young teen.
ETA: I think you kind of round about answered me before on this. I'm curious if meds are the way to go, therapy more important, etc.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 11:40 am
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