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Search warrant in LSU student's death says pledges may have been forced to drink
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:05 pm
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BATON ROUGE - Search warrants filed in the investigation into possible hazing that left an 18-year-old LSU student dead indicate that pledges may have been forced to drink alcohol during what was called "Bible Study" in group text messages.
The warrants were for the Phi Delta Theta fraternity house and for the phone and dorm room of Max Gruver, the student who died. They were conducted on the day Gruver died and the following days.
Text messages indicate that pledges were told to attend "Bible Study" at 10 p.m. on Sept. 13, according to a search warrant affidavit. Investigators learned from witnesses that the meeting was actually an exchange in which members asked pledges questions about the organization and were ordered to drink alcohol if they answered incorrectly, the affidavit said.
"Several other interviews conducted by LSU Police Criminal Investigators indicated that the pledges were forced to drink in excess," the affidavit said.
A group of pledges and members, including Gruver, were at the fraternity house drinking liquor. Gruver, who was described as being "highly intoxicated," was left on a couch at the house for the night.
The next morning, someone checked on him around 11 a.m. and found that his pulse was weak and they couldn't tell if Gruver was breathing.
The search of the fraternity house yielded video recording equipment and "multiple bottles of hard liquor," according to the warrant.
The recording equipment was seized because it “may have video footage of inside the house during the times of the events,” the warrant said.
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This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:07 pm to tke857
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Text messages indicate that pledges were told to attend "Bible Study" at 10 p.m. on Sept. 13, according to a search warrant affidavit. Investigators learned from witnesses that the meeting was actually an exchange in which members asked pledges questions about the organization and were ordered to drink alcohol if they answered incorrectly, the affidavit said.
Yep, a bottom teir fraternity doing loser fraternity things. They give all fraternities a bad name.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:08 pm to tke857
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Text messages indicate that pledges were told to attend "Bible Study" at 10 p.m. on Sept. 13, according to a search warrant affidavit. Investigators learned from witnesses that the meeting was actually an exchange in which members asked pledges questions about the organization and were ordered to drink alcohol if they answered incorrectly, the affidavit said.
That's like titling your porn folder "homework."
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:11 pm to tke857
What are the charges that those involved are looking at for this? I would think they are going to make an example out of this case.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:18 pm to tke857
The video recording equipment is confusing to me.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:19 pm to tke857
If true, that fraternity will fry and so will all those involved. And rightfully so
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:44 pm to JetsetNuggs
Mine is just called "New Folder"
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:50 pm to bbap
Likely a GoPro or some handheld camcorder that they think they may have used to film the “Bible Study” with
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:51 pm to ChadJones4Heisman
I figured it was just surveillance footage from the house, Don’t most houses have at least external cameras these days?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:53 pm to TechDawg2007
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If true, that fraternity will fry and so will all those involved. And rightfully so
With all due respect to the deceased, let me ask you something.
How was it "forced" exactly? Did the frat guys have a gun to this young man's head?
When you're at a job and someone "forces" you to do something you don't want to do (ie. falsify documents, have sex with your boss, etc), you have the luxury of getting up and quitting your job....with your life. How is this any different?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:04 pm to idlewatcher
17/18 year old kid man. Folding to peer pressure. Probably didn’t want to but knew if he didn’t they’d give him even more shite for it.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:12 pm to idlewatcher
I doubt the kid planned on dying while partaking in drinking games
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:14 pm to idlewatcher
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With all due respect to the deceased, let me ask you something.
How was it "forced" exactly? Did the frat guys have a gun to this young man's head?
When you're at a job and someone "forces" you to do something you don't want to do (ie. falsify documents, have sex with your boss, etc), you have the luxury of getting up and quitting your job....with your life. How is this any different?
Were you never a young man experiencing peer pressure?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:16 pm to JetsetNuggs
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meeting was actually an exchange in which members asked pledges questions about the organization and were ordered to drink alcohol if they answered incorrectly,
In comparison to what I had to go through when I got something wrong while pledging this seems like a walk in the park.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:16 pm to CoachChappy
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Yep, a bottom teir fraternity doing loser fraternity things. They give all fraternities a bad name.
Spot on. Phi Delt has always been weird losers who try so hard to be cool.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:16 pm to tke857
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possible hazing that left an 18-year-old LSU student dead indicate that pledges may have been forced to drink alcohol during what was called "Bible Study" in group text messages.
He's an 18 year old kid who could walk away. Unless they held him down, pinched his nose and forced alcohol into his body, or intubated him, how is this "forcing" him to drink?
This might be peer pressure, but grow a set and dont participate. At 18, its hard for me to blame the entire frat for his behavior. that's on him.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:20 pm to tke857
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members asked pledges questions about the organization and were ordered to drink alcohol if they answered incorrectly,
Damn pledges should learn the answers already. I swear pledges get dumber and dumber.
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