re: Scott Adams regretted taking the Covid Vax, worried what it may do to him in 5 years

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now we all know that there massive side effects,


Cite it.

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When you ask them to cite the study, they usually go in one of two different directions:

1) If you can't see it then I can't help you. I guess you're one of those leftist scum commie TDS OMB evil retards with your head in the sand. Wake up, sheep.

Or

2) obviously they have buried all the studies showing the side effects. Because the whole thing is a deep state orchestrated big pharma money grab and population control scheme. Like everyone knows Ivermectin works better than the vaccine. But they can't make money off it, so they claim the studies show it doesn't work....

But they never cite studies. They never cite data. They just tell you how they feel. Which is ironic because that's one thing they accuse progressives of on a daily basis

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It was very real. I took it, was the lesser of two evils.

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maybe

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Perfectly healthy people didn't take the Vax and died. It went both ways.

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We know statistically, to a very large degree this isn't true.

What's your estimate of the death rate from COVID for a perfectly healthy person?

When you remove the elderly, it becomes even clearer.

Spot on.

And what's often overlooked or forgotten is that by the time vaccinations were widely available, Covid infections were trending down. I don't have the data @ my fingertips, but that's what I recall.

I was spending a lot of time in hospitals and infusion centers, unrelated to Covid, and I got to see many things firsthand.

The government's complete overreaction to this situation was ridiculous.
There was a marked difference in Trump's and Biden's administration's, and certainly Biden's was more draconian.

And you're a smart guy, you know that your experiences, just like mine, while true, are anecdotal.

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Exactly. My FIL and my childhood best friend died from Covid. The ones saying it’s not real can legit go frick themselves. I also worked at a critical care hospital at the time (LTACH) and was on the front lines of it. I saw this first hand. To say it’s not real is pure ignorance. I don’t give a shite if someone received the vaccine or not. That’s their choice, live or die with it, but for some of these posters to come in here and spout off the shite they say is pure stupidity.

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I got it and what happened to me was that I lived in a brain fog for almost four months and it has left me with some small, residual memory loss (less loss than the avenues to the knowledge are more clogged with traffic and I can't answer some questions as rapidly as I used to). But during those four months, I was fortunate to have a great staff around me that were able to cover for me. I work in a field that is extremely technical and scientific. Most of my client connections are scientists, physicists and engineers in aerospace, space systems and defense. My product knowledge and industry knowledge would roll off my tongue before Covid. During that brain fog, I couldn't have discussions with clients. I was a mess. I thought my career was over and that I was going to live the rest of my life unable to remember stuff. So yes, Covid is real and it affects everyone in different ways.

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Not the smoker part. But sure, the 20 lbs overweight part.

That is average, or good, in this country

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What age was this person?

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That is average, or good, in this country. That's not excusing it, but it's definitely the norm across all walks of life in the US. I have no issue saying "look almost everyone who died probably had something that contributed it to it, and few were perfectly healthy."

But I think a more helpful metric is to consider whether those people were at any considerable risk of any other likely respiratory thing they might come across in the next 5 years or so. So a normal working dude who needs to lose 20 lbs probably wouldn't be killed off by a cold or flu or anything else in the near future. Which I think was notable at the time.

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I think the question is whether the vaccine was "a lesser of two evils".

I don't think that's clear.

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When Fauci came out and stated the riots were fine, that's when it solidified it for me. This was a power grab. Period.

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Don’t you go using logic and reason with these Branch Covidians. And don’t speak ill of their Lord and savior, Dr. Fauci.

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But, using your example, would a guy like you are describing have been better off taking the vaccine?

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No idea - my gut reaction is that the first round of MRNA vaccines staved off really bad illness/death for initial strains of COVID in a way that didn't happen later. I don't know if that's true/arguable, but anecdotally, that's how it felt.