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re: Scifi fans, do you look down Star Wars and do you consider it to be scifi?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:18 am to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:18 am to DavidTheGnome
I think the film's abstract setting opens the door for either designation. A long time ago in a galaxy far away.
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:22 am to DavidTheGnome
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fiction based on imagined future scientific
No because it was a long, long time ago... not future
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:23 am to DavidTheGnome
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To me it's fantasy with space ships.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:32 am to DavidTheGnome
It may be science fiction but the science is terrible. So yes, I look down on it.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:59 am to DavidTheGnome
There is overlap in a lot of scifi/fantasy... Look at classics like Dune
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I prefer hard scifi where everything has to be plausible
This is a largely niche category, particularly when considering film aka how most people consume sci-fi.
Star Wars is a classic mix with strong sci fi and fantasy elements along with the hero's journey tropes and historic mythology.
Basically it represents the true core of what makes up most sci-fi / fantasy stories (which are two sides of the same coin)
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:04 pm to DavidTheGnome
Star Wars is not SciFi.
The only thing that really felt SciFi are the EU/Legends material.
Now they will most likely destroy that by going into the Unknown Regions. Which was awesome because did enough to venture into the regions but still keep it weird.
The only thing that really felt SciFi are the EU/Legends material.
Now they will most likely destroy that by going into the Unknown Regions. Which was awesome because did enough to venture into the regions but still keep it weird.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:05 pm to ThuperThumpin
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There is overlap in a lot of scifi/fantasy... Look at classics like Dune
they are basically the same thing story structure wise - just were people able to travel / fight / etc. with magic or using technology
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:07 pm to eScott
Wouldn't all the warp speed traveling cause all kinds of aging to the folks they left and came back to
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:14 pm to DavidTheGnome
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frequently portraying space or time travel and life on other planets.
So it's SciFi?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:21 pm to DavidTheGnome
Star Wars is some lame shite. AND it is a "Space Opera" and not SciFi. Your assessment that it's "fantasy" is the equivalent of mine, so I agree with you.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:24 pm to Champagne
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Star Wars is some lame shite. AND it is a "Space Opera" and not SciFi. Your assessment that it's "fantasy" is the equivalent of mine, so I agree with you.
What about Dune? Curious if you call that fantasy or sci fi
ETA: sci-fi vs. fantasy both are very young genres - while there was certainly some stuff dating back into the 1800's for both, both genres really entered their own at the same time around the 1940's - 1950's with Asmiov, Henlein, etc. on the sci-fi side and Tolkein on the fantasy side.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:41 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Wasn't "Dune" a sci fi novel first?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:42 pm to Crawdaddy
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Wouldn't all the warp speed traveling cause all kinds of aging to the folks they left and came back to
No, that's not how warp speed works.
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That’s why we need to look at Einstein’s later theory, the general theory of relativity, which describes how gravity affects the shape of space and flow of time. Imagine a stretched-out sheet. If you place a bowling ball in the middle of the sheet, the sheet will warp as the weight of the ball pushes down on it. If you place a baseball on the same sheet, it will roll toward the bowling ball. This is a simple design, and space doesn’t act like a two-dimensional bed sheet, but it can be applied to something like our solar system. More massive objects like our sun can warp space and affect the orbits of the surrounding planets. The planets don’t fall into the sun, of course, because of the high speeds at which they travel.
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The ability to manipulate space is the most important concept in regard to warp speed. If the Enterprise could warp the space-time continuum by expanding the area behind it and contracting the area in front, the crew could avoid going the speed of light. As long as it creates its own gravitational field, the starship could travel locally at very slow velocities, therefore avoiding the pitfalls of Newton’s third law of motion and keeping clocks in sync with its launch site and destination. The ship isn’t really traveling at a “speed,” per se—it’s more like it’s pulling its destination toward it while pushing its starting point back.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 1:06 pm to DavidTheGnome
Star Trek, Alien, Alien covenant, Prometheus, Silent Running, Fahrenheit 451 (70's ver), BSG,
Those are real Sci Fi.
Star Wars is King Arthur and the Singing Sword.
Those are real Sci Fi.
Star Wars is King Arthur and the Singing Sword.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 1:30 pm to DavidTheGnome
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fiction based on imagined future scientific or technological advances
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So yeah Star Wars fits that
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A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away
Posted on 11/12/19 at 2:11 pm to GEAUXT
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I was a die hard fan growing up. I literally could not care any less about it at this point. It's like they got together and came up with a list of things guaranteed to implode the franchise and piss everybody off, and then said, "yeah let's roll with that."
While I agree the prequels were pretty bad, Rogue One was excellent and despite what some say the Han Solo movie wasn't bad at all.
While I personally had some issues with Force Awakens and Last Jedi, they were enjoyable and were by far improvements over the prequels.
Oh and for context, I saw Star Wars in theaters in the 70s.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 2:15 pm to DavidTheGnome
Picking up the slack for oweo?
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 2:15 pm to SoulGlo
quote:def not a murder mystery, huh
Disney killed Star Wars.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 2:17 pm to DavidTheGnome
I've never heard of Star Wars being held up as the definitive sci-fi movie. Space epic, maybe...
And someone else posted this...
And someone else posted this...
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There is a sliding scale of a sci-fi. SW just tends to be on the “soft” end of the scale while something like 2001 ends up on the “hard” end.
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