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re: Science Failure: White Bread ain’t bad for you. You were force fed a lie for 40 years.

Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:19 am to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:19 am to
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Don’t know if glycemic index and net carbs are related in any ways, but dropping bread from my diet is step 1 to lose weight. Not just white bread - all bread. Potatoes and rice also have to go.


It’s not as simple as just less carbs.

When you reduce carbs we tend to replace it with other things like protein and fat. Which keep us full longer. As a result I bet you end up eating less calories and snacking less. Thus weight loss follows.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:20 am
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:20 am to
Why it gotta be white?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:20 am to
Mango alert triggered.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:20 am to
I dont like it because they use fricking bleached flour.


Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4947 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:21 am to
White bread is bleached flour, dummy.

shite is not healthy, stripped away nutrition.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11255 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:21 am to
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This should end the thread. Avoid things with added sugars and you'll be fine.


Wrong. White bread hits your system as bad or worse than straight sugar.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95928 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:21 am to
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Some calories are worse than others
Not for the process of simple weight gain/loss

Calorie in vs calories out there
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19569 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:22 am to
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It’s not as simple as just less carbs.

When you reduce carbs we tend to replace it with other things like protein and fat. Which keep us full longer. As a result I bet you end up eating less calories and snacking less. Thus weight loss follows.

I went to a diet high in leafy green vegetables and fruits. Occasionally I’d have a baked sweet potato.
Experienced nice weight loss.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26720 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:23 am to
Can't remember the last time I ate white bread...

I'm sure I was a kid...

To me, it just doesn't have much flavor..

This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:25 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95928 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:23 am to
This is why Americans are fat

Study simply shows calories are calories specifically for weight gain, and Americans take that to mean "its healthy"
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:24 am to
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I went to a diet high in leafy green vegetables and fruits. Occasionally I’d have a baked sweet potato. Experienced nice weight loss.


Yea so you restricted calories by paying attention to what you ate.

I’m saying if you didn’t pay attention to what you ate you would naturally be more full by eating low GI carbs, protein, and fat.

If you consumed high GI foods all day you would constantly be hungry and as a result eat more and snack more.

**this applies to people who aren’t paying attention to what they eat. Aka 90% of Americans.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:25 am
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
4919 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:25 am to
I cut out carbs and sugar during covid and lost 50 lbs. I think I'll stick with that.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127471 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:26 am to
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Carbs aren’t the problem. Sugar is the problem.

Simple carbs can turn into sugar in the body.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26720 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:27 am to
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I cut out carbs and sugar during covid and lost 50 lbs.




That's awesome...

My worst sugar intake is with coffee and sweat tea. I really need to start drinking coffee black...
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:29 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:28 am to
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Simple carbs can turn into sugar in the body.


All carbs are sugar
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95928 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:28 am to
if you ate 2,000 calorie a day consisting of ding dongs, McDonalds, and coke, you would also lose weight


You, however, will not be consuming healthy meals
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:30 am to
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This is why Americans are fat

Study simply shows calories are calories specifically for weight gain, and Americans take that to mean "its healthy"


yep

the study even says that

quote:

In view of all the contrary evidence from observational cohort studies and meta-analyses of RCTs, it is surprising that the hypothesis that low-GI (“slow-carb”) diets are superior for weight loss and obesity prevention persists. Carbohydrate quality, including GI, clearly impacts many health outcomes (17, 18, 25), and several meta-analyses have reported higher risks of T2D, cardiovascular disease, and stroke associated with high-GI diets (25, 86–89). However, GI as a measure of carbohydrate quality appears to be unimportant as a determinant of BMI or diet-induced weight loss.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:30 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:32 am to
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Mingo won’t like this, nor will the keto crew on the health board.


I've never argued otherwise with the overall premise of the study. The problem is 100 calories of soda isn't the same with satiety or insulin response as 100 calories of chicken breast.

100 cals = 100 cals but the problem is people don't stop at only 100 cals when they are from shitty sources.

Good try though
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261681 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:32 am to
In moderation, white bread is fine.

The obesity in the USA started long after white bread or soda was created. Its the quantity.
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