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re: School kicks HS girl off the cheer squad over "controversial" tweet.

Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:53 pm to
she wasn't suspended from or kicked out of school, she got dropped from the cheerleading team.

this is no different than football coach dropping a kid for tweeting some dumb arse shite.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49579 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:53 pm to
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Children do not have freedom of speech in schools. You give up that right as part if the social contract of being schooled by the government.



Where in the holy frick do you people come up with this nonsense?
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51421 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:54 pm to
I'm going to guess if you compiled the tweets of every student at the school over the last year, that would be about the 237th most upsetting one. These kids are in HS, they are idiots.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23621 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:56 pm to
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she wasn't suspended from or kicked out of school, she got dropped from the cheerleading team.

this is no different than football coach dropping a kid for tweeting some dumb arse shite.

Was part of the cheerleading team's code of conduct no political tweets? Because if not, this is a violation of free speech. And if it was part of the code of conduct, I would expect a huge backlash if a girl was kicked off for, say, a pro-BLM tweet
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:56 pm to

An Aggy hating Liberty. That's a first.

Keep to sucking dick, please. Something you know all about.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:56 pm to
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She says it was a political statement, not a racial one. FOX25 spoke with the teen who says she was taking a page from Donald Trump

Can we please stop this whole joke about Trump running for president? It has a bad influence on kids
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7620 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:01 pm to
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Since when?


Are you serious?
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7620 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:01 pm to
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Since when?


Are you serious?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49579 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:03 pm to
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she wasn't suspended from or kicked out of school, she got dropped from the cheerleading team.



For a political statement. The cases that deal with kids getting kicked off of extracurriculars deal primarily with illegal or obscene language/actions.

This doesn't really fall into that category. The speech here is political in nature meaning it's afforded the greatest of protections.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:04 pm to
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See Tinker v. Des Moines for a more in depth analysis.


I have and it gives schools some leeway.
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In the school context, the United States Supreme Court has identified three major relevant considerations:

The extent to which the student speech in question poses a substantial threat of disruption (Tinker v. Des Moines Indep. Cmty. Sch. Dist.).
Whether the speech is offensive to prevailing community standards (Bethel School District v. Fraser).
Whether the speech, if allowed as part of a school activity or function, would be contrary to the basic educational mission of the school (Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier).

Each of these considerations has given rise to a separate mode of analysis, and in Morse v. Frederick the Court implied that any one of these may serve as an independent basis for restricting student speech.


LINK
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Brightside Bengal
New Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3968 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:04 pm to
Simple question (and looking for an honest answer): would she have the same rights to stay on the public school cheer team as she would to stay in the public school?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49579 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:05 pm to
And all three of those examples don't really apply to this action.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
109001 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:07 pm to
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This doesn't really fall into that category. The speech here is political in nature meaning it's afforded the greatest of protections.


It says midway through the article that they didn't punish her based on the Tweet alone, but they couldn't divulge that info due to privacy laws. So it wouldn't surprise me if there's more to it that falls under the realm of school discipline.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61610 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:08 pm to
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And all three of those examples don't really apply to this action.


she can say its political all she wants but the fact that Revere is 60% white and yet she said that 90% of its voters are illegal seems to imply that, at best, she is woefully ignorant, and at worst, has a problem wither w/the population being 25% Hispanic or the large number of Asian immigrants that have settled there.(or both)

Regardless of her intent, her tweet pissed off enough people that I think the school can be covered under "threat of disruption"
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104478 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:08 pm to
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The speech here is political in nature meaning it's afforded the greatest of protections.


They're obviously considering it racial in nature.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61610 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:09 pm to
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It says midway through the article that they didn't punish her based on the Tweet alone, but they couldn't divulge that info due to privacy laws. So it wouldn't surprise me if there's more to it that falls under the realm of school discipline.


agreed

odds are when she was confronted about it she responded in a manner that that sealed her fate.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7456 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:12 pm to
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Are you serious?


If you can show me one instance of a school preventing a student from praying, in such a way that was not an open distraction, go ahead.

Schools have been prevented from leading prayer.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129722 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:16 pm to
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Are they? She wasn't suspended or expelled. She was kicked off the Cheerleading Team right? I thought they could boot anyone off of a team for pretty much anything.


And you can sue for anything, too. Hope she does.
Posted by Redbone
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Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:17 pm to
Liberals are all about peopl;e speaking their mind......





















... as long as it is what they want to hear.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Children do not have freedom of speech in schools. You give up that right as part if the social contract of being schooled by the government.


You deserve to be ridiculed for this fallacy you created.
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