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re: Say JIF one more time. I dare ya.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm to Scoop
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm to Scoop
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The word that represents G in the acronym is pronounced with a hard G so I've always used Gif and not gonna stop.
well the letter G is pronounced with a soft G so I'm gonna start pronouncing it jraphics.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 5:33 pm
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:46 am to Breesus
quote:
Clarence: Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.
Those barber shop scenes made the movie.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:24 am to Fonzarelli
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have no relevance to the pronunciation of "graphic"
The pronunciation of graphic has absolutely no relevance to the pronunciation of the acronym containing the word graphic.
Here are some other acronyms commonly used as words, but don't share the same pronunciation of the first letter.
ASAP- pronounce as "AY" in the acronym instead of how it's used in the word "As".
OSHA- pronounced as "OH" instead of "Ah" when used in the word occupational.
SONAR- prounounced as "SO", but the first part of the acronym references the word sound pronounced "SOW".
These are just a few of the many that I'm sure exist. Just because you've done it wrong for so long doesn't make it right. Again, it's widely known that the inventor intended for it to be "JIFF". And there are certainly many G-words that have the J sound. That along with the sound reasoning that no body gives a shite how graphic is pronounced when saying the acronym, proves that you are WRONG.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:47 am to KG6
I guess next ya'll are going to tell me that Gel (Jel) is really pronounced Gel.
I guess GEOS (Graphic Environment Operating System) is actually GEEOS?
I guess Gin is supposed to be a hard G?
I guess GEOS (Graphic Environment Operating System) is actually GEEOS?
I guess Gin is supposed to be a hard G?
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 8:54 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:51 am to LSUTANGERINE
Don't try to use that crazy alliteration round here, boy.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:53 am to Breesus
quote:
Clarence: Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.
Morris: I don't know how old he was, but he got his arse whooped.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:12 am to LSUTANGERINE
Can anybody think of another word starting with "G", that is made up of an initialism to form an acronym, where the "G" is pronounced with the soft variation? I can't think of one.
The origins of these things go back to whether the language is from Latin, French or Germanic, the soft 'g' sound more often coming from French language patterns. Since acronyms don't have such historic transcontinental roots, it seems like the default hard 'g' usage would make more sense, regardless of whatever ad hoc whim the creator may have had.
ETA: I thought of another acronym. Oh well. Hard 'g' sounds better to me. I'm sticking with it.
The origins of these things go back to whether the language is from Latin, French or Germanic, the soft 'g' sound more often coming from French language patterns. Since acronyms don't have such historic transcontinental roots, it seems like the default hard 'g' usage would make more sense, regardless of whatever ad hoc whim the creator may have had.
ETA: I thought of another acronym. Oh well. Hard 'g' sounds better to me. I'm sticking with it.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 9:17 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:22 am to RockAndRollDetective
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Can anybody think of another word starting with "G", that is made up of an initialism to form an acronym, where the "G" is pronounced with the soft variation
Well at least you didn't get too specific in your request
. Many, many words start with g and carry the soft pronunciation (germ, gelatin, giraffe, giant, gib, ginger, etc.). It is not a far fetched idea to do so. It is also in no way shape or form necessary to pronounce an acronym utilizing the sounds of the letters in the same way that the word they represent uses them (as in it doesn't matter at all how graphic utilizes the g). It is also quite common not to have that happen. So why can't people grasp the concept that this is pronounced "jiff". I have a feeling it's because this term was brought about in the time of the internet where people are by themselves reading things off of a screen. They don't ever hear the word and pronounce it to themselves without ever knowing the proper way. That's understandable. But what isn't is that we are so self righteous that we believe the pronunciation we've come up with is right even when proven otherwise.
I used to say "jiff or giff, however us say it" when describing it, but then learned it was meant to be said as "jiff" so I use that from now on. Seems others can't let go of "giff".
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:40 am to KG6
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the proper way
LOL!
This is the OOSAH! We do what we want.
BTW, I get my unassailable info from that "jewjull.com" site or however you say it.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:55 am to RockAndRollDetective
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Can anybody think of another word starting with "G", that is made up of an initialism to form an acronym, where the "G" is pronounced with the soft variation? I can't think of one.
I just posted one above.
GEOS - GRAPHIC Environment Operating System.
And it is pronounced Jeeos, not GEEos.
Therefore any argument that GIF is a hard G just because of the word Graphic is null and void.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:21 am to CaptainsWafer
So I literally started laughing out loud and now everyone in the office is looking at me like I'm crazy. Thanks man.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:23 am to SG_Geaux
I already acknowledged, thanks. But I would say an acronym that purposely references already established words (geography, geopolitical, geology, geometry, etc.) might be a different situation.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:41 am to RockAndRollDetective
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I already acknowledged, thanks. But I would say an acronym that purposely references already established words (geography, geopolitical, geology, geometry, etc.) might be a different situation.
WUT???
How is it "referencing" an already established word? GEOS doesn't directly relate to any of those other words. It merely mimics the spelling of them (GEOS - geography) making you think that the pronunciation would be the same. Which is logical even though the acronym has nothing to do with any word that has the root "geo". Yet somehow, it is illogical in your mind that the first letters in GIF, could resemble the same pronunciation of words like ginger or giraffe. Your argument is riddled with holes. I'm not saying I can't see how someone would pronounce it GIFF (with a hard G), but when faced with the facts that they are wrong, it's funny to see them try and use faulty logic to prove themselves right.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:50 am to KG6
Like the "faulty logic" of using only two consecutive letters to illustrate your point because you can't think of any examples with all three? I see...
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:06 am to SG_Geaux
quote:And next you'll tell me that "gift" is really pronounced "jift"
I guess next ya'll are going to tell me that Gel (Jel) is really pronounced Gel.
I guess GEOS (Graphic Environment Operating System) is actually GEEOS?
I guess Gin is supposed to be a hard G?
Prefer to pronounce it Yif, so as to not cause confusion.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:08 am to OneMoreTime
quote:I hate myself for knowing this, but "yiff" is a term that furries use in place of "having sex". It specifically refers to having sex while in costume as an anthropomorphic animal. So be very careful using "yiff" because people might think you're a furry.
And next you'll tell me that "gift" is really pronounced "jift"
Prefer to pronounce it Yif, so as to not cause confusion.
For those who don't know, a furry is a person who wears an animal costume and roleplays as an anthropomorphic animal. It is often a part of a sexual kink.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:18 am to Hog on the Hill
Shhhh
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:19 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:Ha...you're a furry.
I hate myself for knowing this, but "yiff" is a term that furries use in place of "having sex". It specifically refers to having sex while in costume as an anthropomorphic animal. So be very careful using "yiff" because people might think you're a furry.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:21 am to RockAndRollDetective
can think of an example with all three.........gif.
I didn't realize you had to get to three letters to prove that you were right.
Is that enough to illustrate the point that you are wrong. You should really try being right at something sometime. It's very satisfying.
I didn't realize you had to get to three letters to prove that you were right
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It is understandable that computer users who encounter this acronym for the first time might well assume that since the “G” stands for “graphic,” gif should similarly be pronounced with an initial hard g, as in go and give. However, the inventor of the format, Steve Wilhite, has insisted from its introduction at a computer conference in the late 1980s that the pronunciation is [jif] (Show IPA) with an initial soft g, as in gelatin and giant. That pronunciation is even part of the official specifications for the format and is the one used by many computer gurus
Is that enough to illustrate the point that you are wrong. You should really try being right at something sometime. It's very satisfying.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:27 am to The Sad Banana
quote:I'm into some kinky shite, but not dressing up like an animal
Ha...you're a furry.
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