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re: Sally - Moving towards Georgia - Potential for Significant Flooding

Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11767 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:33 pm to
Checking in from Abita, are we pretty much 100% in the clear?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:34 pm to
What’s the difference between an ensemble and a model?

Explain it to me like I’m 5



And please don’t say the model WEARS the ensemble
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

If it makes you feel better about your earlier uninformed statement to resort to semantics, that's okay with me. But it makes you look a little childish.



Nothing semantic about it. The storm was never forecast to go 50 miles west of New Orleans. Posting a few images you clearly don't understand doesn't change that.

rds's post on page 13 has zero replies. I'd suggest asking for clarification when someone makes a post that makes your butt pucker.

That being said, yes, I know it makes me look more than a little childish to argue with you fools about this insignificant shite. I'll still happily oblige.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134824 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

It is where computer modeling thinks it is going
IOW, the path.
Posted by blight
central
Member since Jul 2012
1036 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:36 pm to
i wish people like this would troll a different thread. we have posters here trying to give information to people that are, or could be, affected by a storm and they show up to just get a reaction.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:36 pm to
How do I post a short video on here? Water is rising at my parents in Slidell whose house is right on the lake.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7674 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

You said 50 miles west of New Orleans and now it's supposed to go 150 miles east. That is and was false.


The 4am Sunday track, the black line, was right through St. Charles Parish.

Destrehan to Pascagoula is 112 miles as the crow flies.

This was a rather large shift but I guess its not over until we get a landfall.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78352 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

IOW, the path.


Read note one next to the map

This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 7:38 pm
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5662 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

slackster


Lol at you calling someone else an amateur in one of these threads.
Posted by Theboot32
Mandeville/Poplarville
Member since Jan 2016
2454 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

Checking in from Abita, are we pretty much 100% in the clear?




I’m in Mandeville and I’m telling myself we are in the clear
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:38 pm to
TWC guy just said they could possibly downgrade this thing. He will be fired before 8pm.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53878 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

ow do I post a short video on here? Water is rising at my parents in Slidell whose house is right on the lake.


LINK
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7252 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:39 pm to
Water will keep rising there until the wind shifts.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131495 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

TWC guy just said they could possibly downgrade this thing.


Damn

Thats like somebody on CNN saying covid isnt that big a deal
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53878 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:42 pm to
Yep,
see what the difference is in the AM compared to this evening
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

What’s the difference between an ensemble and a model?

I believe (and I could be wrong) that ensembles are the various runs of different forecasts that are used to create each model.

So the EURO, GFS, etc have ensembles which are how they come up with their projections.

And I seem to be correct; I did some quick googling and found this:
quote:

The Global Ensemble Forecast System (GEFS), previously known as the GFS Global ENSemble (GENS), is a weather forecast model made up of 21 separate forecasts, or ensemble members.

Source - NOAA page
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84298 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:43 pm to
Tweet that at Jim Cantore and invite him over.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

What’s the difference between an ensemble and a model?

Explain it to me like I’m 5



A global forecast model, or operational run as it is sometimes called with the GFS and Euro, is the computer's best estimate of what will happen. It takes as much real time data as possible, plugs it into the supercomputer, and spits it out a few hours later.

The ensemble members (21 for the GFS and 50 for the Euro) are attempts to capture a range of possible outcomes by tweaking the initial real time data that is being plugged into the computer. They tweak initial data points and then run through the system - similar to the butterfly effect basically. The idea is that the ensemble members, and the ensemble mean (average result of the ensembles for any given parameter), may offer a better range of possibilities than the individual operational run.

On a larger scale, think of the NHC forecast as the operational run and the GFS, Euro, HWRF, etc. models as ensemble members. The NHC is better than any individual component, but they use the results of all the components to help guide them.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15743 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:43 pm to
Fishfighter’s pecans are the new sunflowers.
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