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re: Salary of $115,627 needed in order to qualify for a mortgage on a typical American home
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:45 pm to Chicken
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:45 pm to Chicken
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prior to 2020, cost of living was not high.
I think you should look that up.
That doesn’t negate the fact that millennials have done a horrible job of saving, but the cost of living has dramatically increased from 2000 up until 2020.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:47 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Let me clarify...66% hadn't saved anything towards a downpayment...
Scruffy had info that was cited from this website:
https://www.apartmentlist.com/research/millennial-homeownership-2022
That's where the 66% comes from.
Scruffy had info that was cited from this website:
https://www.apartmentlist.com/research/millennial-homeownership-2022
That's where the 66% comes from.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:47 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:A single dime is likely a stretch, but Americans are abysmal at saving.
that is not a fact
That stat was also in regards to a down payment.
There is this financial audit podcaster/YouTuber, Caleb Hammer, who brings people in and goes over their finances.
They are likely worse than most, but it is really mind boggling how bad some people are at finances.
I get a kick out of his videos.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:50 pm to Deactived
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Zillow Link 200k quote: Find me one house in Baton Rouge $200k or less that’s not a shite hole. Please just link me ONE. There’s only ONE that is not in a scary part. The other I saw were North if I-12 and by Gardere. And youre not even really in the city. That is so far out the way of everything. The zillow map darth posted
So far from where? I live it 70817 and it’s not that far from anywhere. It’s like 8 to 15 miles to anywhere in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:50 pm to Scruffy
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I think you should look that up.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/
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The optimal inflation rate is often considered to be around 2%.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:52 pm to Chicken
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I was 26, dual income household...house was roughly $200,000 but wasn't in a shithole area. Mortgage rate was about 6.5%.
Plug your old address into Zillow and see what its current value is. Then research the average salary for 26 year olds. Could two 26 year olds buy it today? (Consider whatever you want for down payment)
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:55 pm to Dire Wolf
Come here you can get any property cheap
Here is a ready to go full service gas station, repair and tire shop for 187k
LINK
It just closed down under a year ago when Gresham Petroleum sold Double Quick to a corporation. This station was their original one and wasn’t sold with the chain gas stations. Very successful tire shop with a lot of farm accounts
Here is a ready to go full service gas station, repair and tire shop for 187k
LINK
It just closed down under a year ago when Gresham Petroleum sold Double Quick to a corporation. This station was their original one and wasn’t sold with the chain gas stations. Very successful tire shop with a lot of farm accounts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:56 pm to fareplay
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This statement is how I know you’re out of touch. 130k in a city isn’t what you remember it to be
Bruh he might spend $2k/month on rent but he’s still got plenty of $ left over to save for a huge downpayment if he’s even just a little smart with his money. Yeah, money doesn’t go near as far as it did when our parents bought their houses. But our parents also weren’t going out to eat every night and spending a sizeable portion of their income on entertainment. Both sides have valid arguments in this. Housing and inflation are absolutely ridiculous but people are also extremely stupid with how they spend their money.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:00 pm to stout
The solution is to close the border
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:03 pm to GeauxZone90
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The solution is to close the border
Yup, too many messicans buying up all the 200k houses everywhere.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:10 pm to Rize
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It’s like 8 to 15 miles to anywhere in Baton Rouge.
15 miles? I mean shite thats the entire city. 15 miles from the house you posted puts you across the river in port allen.
eta: i just consider that area to be on another planet from 70808
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:11 pm to lsufball19
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My dad's parents married when they were 18. Dad was born a little over a year later and my aunt a couple years after that. My grandfather was a full-time student, played football in college (DIII), had a job, and my grandmother had to drop out of college to take care of my dad and aunt. She didn't work. They didn't have financial support from family either. This was the late 50's through early 60s so times were obviously different. But somehow they were able to buy a house and maintain a family with all of that going on.
People forget how strict the parents of these households were about expenses though.
1. Turn lights off when not needed
2. Cooked at home, little eating out and you didn’t waste food
3. One tv, no cable. Local channels
4. One phone, local calls only
5. Appliances were repaired, not replaced.
6. Many homes had no central heat or air. Utility cost low
Back then owning a home and car were huge deals. It was a life goal for many and the focus started there on affording that, and other things came way later. If you couldn’t afford a washer and dryer, they used a tub and clothesline.
Let’s not pretend life then was easy for them just because they bought a house. For the working and middle class, they had few luxuries outside of basic home ownership.
Today we have modern comforts and due to technology many things are necessary such as computers, phones, internet that cost money. However, some people waste too much on this stuff beyond what’s necessary for work or life. If many people really gave up a lot of “extras” and lifestyle choices they could live without easily, they’d be able to afford a home even with the inflated prices.
But corporations buying up family homes are the core issue that’s preventing prices from coming down and it’s a problem that needs addressing. They’re the ones jacking up rent as well because they have to make income off these expensive investments.
I think investment groups and corporations should be barred from buying up residential zoned property unless it’s explicitly used to house employees of that company.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:13 pm to EarlyCuyler3
This is partly to the obnoxious length of the mortgage forbearance programs related to Covid.
So many Americans got to skate rent/mortgage free for months instead of some having to properly downsize like any other time when things are disrupted.
Circle of life is when people get divorced/fired and have to default on homes that they were over their heels on.
Never good to artificially stop that.
So many Americans got to skate rent/mortgage free for months instead of some having to properly downsize like any other time when things are disrupted.
Circle of life is when people get divorced/fired and have to default on homes that they were over their heels on.
Never good to artificially stop that.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:15 pm to Deactived
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15 miles? I mean shite thats the entire city. 15 miles from the house you posted puts you across the river in port allen.
That’s what I mean by not being that far. Moving to Houston has me fricked up now
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:16 pm to Rize
I gotcha. I love when we go to Houston and visit it seems like every time a friend wants to meet up no matter where we are at its like 45 minutes to get there
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:16 pm to deltaland
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People forget how strict the parents of these households were about expenses though.
Sure.
Kind of irrelevant though when you can't afford to get in the door, isn't it?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:22 pm to Deactived
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I love when we go to Houston and visit it seems like every time a friend wants to meet up no matter where we are at its like 45 minutes to get there
I remember a connecting flight to San Antonio in Houston was canceled and I decided to just rent a car and drive from Houston to SA. It felt like I’d never get out of Houston. Place is spread out
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:24 pm to StringedInstruments
Just a data point..
My parents sold their starter house (3br 2ba 1960 sq ft) in suburban Jax for $168k back in 2003. House looks the exact same on the exterior (dated) and is estimated by Zillow at $379k.
If it was updated to the current times, it would probably be valued in mid to high-400's.
My parents sold their starter house (3br 2ba 1960 sq ft) in suburban Jax for $168k back in 2003. House looks the exact same on the exterior (dated) and is estimated by Zillow at $379k.
If it was updated to the current times, it would probably be valued in mid to high-400's.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:26 pm to 904
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it would probably be valued in mid to high-400's.
Entitled fricking kids thinking they should be able to afford a sub 2k sqft 3/2. What the frick are they thinking??
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:36 pm to 904
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My parents sold their starter house (3br 2ba 1960 sq ft) in suburban Jax for $168k back in 2003. House looks the exact same on the exterior (dated) and is estimated by Zillow at $379k.
My wife and I bought our 2200 sq ft starter home in 2018 for ~$360k in Franklin, TN. Houses with our comps in our neighborhood are selling for ~$700k now. Nice to have that equity but not nice knowing that we're prisoners in our home for the foreseeable future. To buy a larger home for our still growing family would cost over a million easily in our area. And with current interest rates triple what our is now, our mortgage payments would triple, rendering it a financial impossibility. It would honestly be a stretch to buy our existing house under the current conditions, despite the fact that we have raised our household income by ~$70% since we bought in 2018.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 4:37 pm
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