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Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:32 pm to Deactived
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Fareplay can't afford his house on 300k a year apparently.
While I also do not believe him (as he is a known troll), it's indisputable that home affordability is significantly worse today than it was 20-30 years ago.
So it is an undeniable fact that two people making equivalent income have very different home buying options available to them in say 1998 versus 2023.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:33 pm to Crawdaddy
This is what 152K will get you in Knoxville, and I can promise you 175K will not get you much better:
830 sq ft house built in 1930 in the most dangerous part of town
And for kicks, some one was recently murdered about a block or two away
Some of yall are so out of touch. My wife (no pics) turned 30 today and is about to finish her fourth year of med school and then go into residency. She graduated from UAB and also got a masters in biology. This summer she completed her MBA, all while teaching college classes on the side while also studying for multiple board exams and working long hours at the hospital every day. There is a strong chance she has already out worked both of your parents. We are living off my salary as a photographer/videographer/public relations for a small municipality with contracted work on the side and her student loans. Once she starts residency, she will only be making around 60k, which when divided by the amount of hours she will be working, comes out to almost nothing.
I bought my first house five years ago. It was only 667 sq ft and I got it for 92k. I sold it earlier this year for 155k...for a house under 700 sq ft. We had to move in to an apartment that ran for 1500 a month. We were displaced from that apartment last winter when the complex's external fire sprinklers burst and flooded our unit. We were given two weeks to move out and ended in an apartment 300 sq ft smaller and $500 more a month. The next week after we signed the lease, they raised rent by $500.
Some of yall have zero understanding of what this market is like. I can assure you people out here aren't trying to live luxurious lifestyles above their means. We just want a house that's not falling apart in the roughest parts of town. I don't even have a car note or student loans or credit card debt, just her student loan debt, yet we would probably be priced out of our current apartment if we had to resign the lease. This area is a hotbed of the California/New York migration and it has completely priced residents out of their rentals and more. People are struggling, and it's not laziness and extravagant living.
830 sq ft house built in 1930 in the most dangerous part of town




And for kicks, some one was recently murdered about a block or two away
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MikeyWM97
Exactly, I see it all the time. These kids want the same house their parents live in, but have no idea the years of work it took to get there.
Some of yall are so out of touch. My wife (no pics) turned 30 today and is about to finish her fourth year of med school and then go into residency. She graduated from UAB and also got a masters in biology. This summer she completed her MBA, all while teaching college classes on the side while also studying for multiple board exams and working long hours at the hospital every day. There is a strong chance she has already out worked both of your parents. We are living off my salary as a photographer/videographer/public relations for a small municipality with contracted work on the side and her student loans. Once she starts residency, she will only be making around 60k, which when divided by the amount of hours she will be working, comes out to almost nothing.
I bought my first house five years ago. It was only 667 sq ft and I got it for 92k. I sold it earlier this year for 155k...for a house under 700 sq ft. We had to move in to an apartment that ran for 1500 a month. We were displaced from that apartment last winter when the complex's external fire sprinklers burst and flooded our unit. We were given two weeks to move out and ended in an apartment 300 sq ft smaller and $500 more a month. The next week after we signed the lease, they raised rent by $500.
Some of yall have zero understanding of what this market is like. I can assure you people out here aren't trying to live luxurious lifestyles above their means. We just want a house that's not falling apart in the roughest parts of town. I don't even have a car note or student loans or credit card debt, just her student loan debt, yet we would probably be priced out of our current apartment if we had to resign the lease. This area is a hotbed of the California/New York migration and it has completely priced residents out of their rentals and more. People are struggling, and it's not laziness and extravagant living.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:35 pm to SquatchDawg
So how much was the house?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:36 pm to SuperSaint
At this point you can’t buy a decent trailer on a small piece of land an hour from downtown Dallas (without traffic) for under 200k.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:38 pm to KILGUS
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Some of yall have zero understanding of what this market is like
Bingo.
Most people out of their mid-40's just have no concept of what it's like for younger generations.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:38 pm to BrianFantana
This statement is how I know you’re out of touch. 130k in a city isn’t what you remember it to be
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Hell…I don’t remember, $130k?
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:39 pm to Deactived
I’m right here. I can’t afford my house but my wife makes over 600k so she helps
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:39 pm to stout
Welcome to Joe Biden's America.
Donald Trump brought us Peace and Prosperity. Joe Biden brings us war and massive hyperinflation.
What a mess.
Donald Trump brought us Peace and Prosperity. Joe Biden brings us war and massive hyperinflation.
What a mess.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:40 pm to SquatchDawg
Bingo lmao
So 130k is the equivalent to about 262k in 1999.
But the FRED data shows clearly that the house price index for the Charlotte area has increased about 2.9x from 1999 to present.
Which means the 130k house you bought is probably valued at around 380k today. Or about 120k (43%) more than what it would be if it merely kept up with inflation.
So 130k is the equivalent to about 262k in 1999.
But the FRED data shows clearly that the house price index for the Charlotte area has increased about 2.9x from 1999 to present.
Which means the 130k house you bought is probably valued at around 380k today. Or about 120k (43%) more than what it would be if it merely kept up with inflation.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:41 pm to KILGUS
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People are struggling, and it's not laziness and extravagant living.
What is the reasoning by boomers even arguing this? Wouldn’t it be a far more productive take for them to say:
“Yeah back in my day before the government got so indebted and in bed with private companies, the economy was much better for the middle class.”
Instead they make an argument that pushes young people to become more left wing.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:44 pm to Zarkinletch416
quote:
Donald Trump brought us Peace and Prosperity.
Trump printed money hand over fist during COVID and helped create this inflation.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:48 pm to fareplay
quote:
I’m right here. I can’t afford my house but my wife makes over 600k so she helps
Can you explain the dynamics here?
You bought a house you couldn't afford at 300k then get married to a woman making 600k so now you can afford it because she helps you pay it?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:49 pm to Deactived

Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:49 pm to Deactived
No we bought it after we got engaged. My comment is if I was single I wouldn’t be able to afford it. The down payment alone with closing was close to 300k
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:51 pm to fareplay
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The down payment alone with closing was close to 300k
Uh....
Im on the side of "shite is out of control and vastly different", but I think you bought too much house.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:51 pm to Crawdaddy
quote:not many golf course country club homes for 300k these days
That is $308,912.32 in todays dollar
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:52 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Bingo what?
That house today is about $250k but two young people doing what we did would also be making a lot more today too. It’s all relative.
Besides, my whole point was you almost had to have a decent dual income to save and buy a house as long as I remember. It seems only recently that people thing they should buy a home by themselves right out of the gate.
That house today is about $250k but two young people doing what we did would also be making a lot more today too. It’s all relative.
Besides, my whole point was you almost had to have a decent dual income to save and buy a house as long as I remember. It seems only recently that people thing they should buy a home by themselves right out of the gate.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:52 pm to Klark Kent
How much do you think 300k really is?
After taxes my take home is roughly 180k
I live in HCOL area and a 1 bedroom is 3500 a month
Car is 700 a month
Insurance is 150
Phone is 100
Random misc services and bills is 300
Student loans is 1500 a month
That’s before food and other random expenses let’s say is 1500 a month
That’s roughly 7k a month which is 84k a year. Not counting emergency funds, retirement, etc.
In order for a single person like me to be able to afford a median house near me, I have to live like Buddha for 3 years assuming I made 300k (which I didn’t till recently)
After taxes my take home is roughly 180k
I live in HCOL area and a 1 bedroom is 3500 a month
Car is 700 a month
Insurance is 150
Phone is 100
Random misc services and bills is 300
Student loans is 1500 a month
That’s before food and other random expenses let’s say is 1500 a month
That’s roughly 7k a month which is 84k a year. Not counting emergency funds, retirement, etc.
In order for a single person like me to be able to afford a median house near me, I have to live like Buddha for 3 years assuming I made 300k (which I didn’t till recently)
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