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re: Russian Court Upholds Brittney Griner’s 9-Year Sentence

Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:57 am to
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:57 am to
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no, you asked if I believed in it not if I believed it was a thing.




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Do you believe in the deterrent function of criminal justice?


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I asked you if you believed that there is a deterrent component to criminal justice.




As to your second point, my opinion is that it carries no relevance what I think of the "harshness" of the penalty.

I do think that because of the war, Griner should serve the penalty on principle. It shouldn't just be "other people's money" on the line. Begging for the US to intervene on her behalf is in direct contravention of US foreign policy at this point.
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 10:00 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:02 am to
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It's ashame what Biden is doing to her Trump would have had her home months ago


frick her. She hate America. She’s made that clear
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:07 am to
Deterrence is a component of criminal sentences. I believe that to be true. I believe “in” it as a concept, but not unfettered. For example, I don’t believe “in” (accept as right and just) much of the Islamic law and punishments. I believe many are extreme and overly harsh.

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Begging for the US to intervene on her behalf i
Nothing I’ve stated hinted at US intervention. In fact, I’ve advocated the opposite since my first post in the thread.

As I’ve said repeatedly, simply because I believe Griner’s sentence to be harsh, I don’t advocate for government involvement to rescue her.

This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 10:08 am
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:28 am to
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You play stupid games, win stupid prizes
What was the stupid game she played? Accidentally bringing what was legal for her to have in the US with her?

I guarantee you make mistakes in life too.

It'd be a different story if she just ignored their law and arrogantly did it anyway, but by all accounts that isn't the case.

How she feels about the US has no play in this at the end of the day.

If you sneezed while driving causing you to swerve a bit and kill somebody would you like to spend years in jail for it?
Posted by Sal Minio
17th Street Canal
Member since Sep 2006
4493 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:29 am to
Does Biden play this card in the next 2 weeks or hold it for the 2024 election?
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:30 am to
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What was the stupid game she played? Accidentally bringing what was legal for her to have in the US with her?



Try to bring a handgun with you to China and let me know how that works out for you.

Its legal here bro
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:31 am to
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She chose to break the law over there.
She didn't choose to break the law.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:32 am to
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a foreigner smuggling drugs into a country?
I'm genuinely interested in why you state that she smuggled drugs into another country? Nothing reported has ever said this.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:34 am to
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What a surprise.
The same lineup of posters find little sympathy for the victims of judicial excess when the victim is black. Here, black, gay and a woman, so they have a trifecta.
Do so much as investigate or subpoena any white male from the Trump administration and the whole federal judicial system must be burned to the ground...




Really living up to your username, as usual.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:35 am to
The OT never breaks laws bro.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:35 am to
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I'm genuinely interested in why you state that she smuggled drugs into another country? Nothing reported has ever said this.



She was arrested at Moscow airport bringing drugs into Russia

She was quite literally trafficking drugs internationally from the US to Russia

Where have you been
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77256 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:35 am to
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The same lineup of posters find little sympathy for the victims of judicial excess when the victim is black. Here, black, gay and a woman, so they have a trifecta. Do so much as investigate or subpoena any white male from the Trump administration and the whole federal judicial system must be burned to the ground...
She was imprisoned in the United States?

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:36 am to
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Accidentally
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77256 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:36 am to
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I'm genuinely interested in why you state that she smuggled drugs into another country? Nothing reported has ever said this.


Even her supporters have reported on that.

She brought vape cartridges into Russia, an illegal act under their laws.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77256 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:38 am to
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Try to bring a handgun with you to China and let me know how that works out for you.
Hell, try to walk around the UK or France with a pocket knife.

It’s legal in the United States.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:38 am to
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Try to bring a handgun with you to China and let me know how that works out for you.
The other poster inferred she purposely did it (play stupid games). Yes, she did it, and is guilty for it, but she didn't purposely do it.

What you say is irrelevant to the discussion.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:39 am to
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but she didn't purposely do it.


I'd love your proof on this.

ETA: Proof beyond her claiming that of course. Because if you ask Darrel Brooks, he didn't do anything purposefully too.
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:39 am to
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The OT never breaks laws bro.


This isn't just about breaking laws, its about breaking laws then whining you should be immune from punishment.

She's not worth your angst.



Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26134 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:41 am to
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I'm genuinely interested in why you state that she smuggled drugs into another country? Nothing reported has ever said this.


You wishing something or refusing to understand something, doesn't impose an obligation on me. I can't understand it for you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:42 am to
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t, but she didn't purposely do it.


Bless your heart.

You're telling me a grown arse woman, didn't know she had a cartridge in her bags while flying internationally?

You're dumber than she.
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