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re: Russia to double number of warheads on new ICBMs
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:31 pm to ksayetiger
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:31 pm to ksayetiger
quote:I always picture Peter Sellers saying it:
I have used that quote since high school, minus the german accent. But the accent adds to it
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:36 pm to Darth_Vader
Hillary gave them a "reset" button.
Looks like they put in the Konami code this ply through
Looks like they put in the Konami code this ply through
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:37 pm to Darth_Vader
to secure peace is to prepare for war
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:37 pm to NYNolaguy1
Looks like he's motor boating with his lips 
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:40 pm to Darth_Vader
North Korea with one single solitary 1940's style a-bomb is WAYYYYYYYYY scarier to me than this.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:41 pm to CCTider
Putin is awesome and the best leader in the world. Frick you
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:46 pm to Darth_Vader
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The danger in all this is that all these things, when looked at together, makes a Russian push into Europe look at least plausible from their perspective. And when war looks plausible to your enemy, that's when wars start.
Silly, Obama would lead a charge of unicorns and pink fuzzy elephants to overrun the Russian advances. 
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:47 pm to Darth_Vader
Putin gives no fricks about your nuclear treaties.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:49 pm to Darth_Vader
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He's a fan of Russia.
I'm not a fan of Russia per se. Just of Putin in this age of Western pussification.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:49 pm to Havoc
No, he'll declare Europe a safe space and ask the russkies what their preferred pronouns are
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:57 pm to RedRifle
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Hopefully not. But the situation in Europe is getting worrisome. You've got Russia headed by a megalomaniac with delusions of returning Russia to its Soviet era glory. And he's spent the last several years building their military back up to real world power levels. Meanwhile NATO is a shell of its former self. Europe is virtually undefended and disarmed. And the real power in NATO, namely the US, has cut the shite out of its own military, has stretched whats left of its military thin by getting tied up in the Middle East. And on top of that we're like $20,trillion in debt. Hell, we couldn't afford another big war. The danger in all this is that all these things, when looked at together, makes a Russian push into Europe look at least plausible from their perspective. And when war looks plausible to your enemy, that's when wars start. I'm not saying it's about to kick off. But there is danger because from the Russians point of view, it looks like it could possibly be winnable.
Holy shitballs...
NATO is a bull in a china shop accountable to no one. Did you not catch the part where john McCain and v. Nuland where actively encouraging protesters in Kiev? Let's say politicians from china, n Korea, or Iran were actively protesting in Mexico City to overthrow the Mexican government and there was a military alliance encroaching up to the US border.
The military is being gutted? We spend more on the military than everyone else in the world combined. It is a massive drain on the country.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:58 pm to Havoc
The same Obama that led large scale military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan that also funded rebel groups (indirectly creating ISIS)
don't kid yourself
don't kid yourself
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:05 pm to Darth_Vader
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Russia has its eyes on reclaiming Eastern Europe. In this regard aircraft carriers would be of little to no use.
ETA: Downvote it all you want. But anyone who knows shite about this subject knows aircraft carriers would be of little to no use in a war fought in Eastern Europe.
Damn It!! If we could only figure out some way to refuel all of our planes in the air!! Or develop a missile that could fly to a precise location. One of those drone thingys that everyone seems to be flying in their backyards with a bomb on it would be cool too!
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:12 pm to kfaulk03
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NATO is a bull in a china shop accountable to no one
NATO is a joke from a military standpoint and has been since the end of the Cold War.
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The military is being gutted? We spend more on the military than everyone else in the world combined. It is a massive drain on the country.
We've restructured our military to fight "low intensity counter-insurgency" warfare. We are totally unprepared for a conventional European war. And it pains me to say that. First, we have very little left in Europe. Second, we'd have a hard time scrounging up enough forces to ship to Europe if war ever does come. And even then it's doubtful they'd get there before the Russians reach the Rhine in force.
Bottom line is this. Russia has spent the last decade or so rebuilding and rearming their armed forces to fight a Contenental war in Europe. And Europe and the US has done little to nothing to counter.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:16 pm to kfaulk03
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We spend more on the military than everyone else in the world combined
That's because we spend billions developing one jet that gets scrapped.
They spend millions on bodies, guns, and shite that goes boom
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:28 pm to biohzrd
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Damn It!! If we could only figure out some way to refuel all of our planes in the air!!
Air refuelers would be one of the first thing the Russians would target. And they are basically sitting ducks. Plus, even with air refulers it does not resolve the matter of the carriers 1. being needed to escort convoys across the Atlantic and 2. the carriers being vulnerable to ground air and missile attack if they move close enough to central or eastern Europe to be of any use.
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Or develop a missile that could fly to a precise location.
Yes, we have them and so do the Russians. But what you're failing to take into account is that unlike the wars you've watched on cable news the last decade plus, Russia is a foe with a modern air force and a modern SAM network. Yes we would be able to hit them, but it would not be easy nor would it be without taking losses. The bottom line is any air campaign we'd launch would have to rely on ground based aircraft operating out of Germany (at least until Germany was overrun), Italy, and Great Britain. Which this leads me to a question. Do you have any idea how much of a fighter force we have in Europe today? That would be six. Six fighter squadrons. We have zero bomber squadrons and zero ground attack squadrons. Thus, as soon as war broke out, we'd have to undertake a massive redeployment of air assets to Europe. And while the planes themselves can get there pretty quick, it takes time to get all the support personnel and gear there. Time we probably don't have to spare.
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One of those drone thingys that everyone seems to be flying in their backyards with a bomb on it would be cool too!
Drones? Is this a joke? You think drones would be the answer?
You cannot operate drones over contested air space. They'll never reach their targets before they're blasted from the sky. Drones...
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:37 pm to Darth_Vader
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quote: We spend more on the military than everyone else in the world combined That's because we spend billions developing one jet that gets scrapped. They spend millions on bodies, guns, and shite that goes boom
It's making us all poorer. The military is like a heavily armed post office. You can't be conservative and support a massive, wasteful government mercenary army.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:48 pm to kfaulk03
Breesus thinks we can take them out with unmanned drones no problem #jackass
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:52 pm to LOL
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Breesus thinks we can take them out with unmanned drones no problem #jackass
I remember that thread. Damn that was hilarious.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 4:09 pm to RedRifle
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I'm not a fan of Russia per se. Just of Putin in this age of Western pussification.
I don't keep up with this stuff as much as some of you, but didn't Putin basically control the Ukraine when Obama came into office?
The top leaders of the government were aligned with Russia, then they had an independent election and booted out the leader(s) that were puppets of Putin.
And although Putin reacted by taking a port in the Crimea in an area of mainly Russian speaking Ukrainians,
he basically lost control of the Ukraine since Obama has been in office.
Where am I wrong on that?
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