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re: Russia, Syria, and Iran teaming up in Baghdad...

Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:06 pm to
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Boils down to Europe doesn't want to rely on Russia for it's oil and gas needs. Assad is stopping the proposed pipeline from the sandbox. It's in Russia's interest to make sure Assad remains in power.

End of story.


Well, in my opinion, the sad truth is that due to the culture that's prevalent in the Middle East, Assad being in control of Syria is probably for the best. History shows that democracy just does not work in that part of the world. I know we in the U.S. want everyone around the world to live in open democracies, but that does not work everywhere. Look at the chaos that's come from the Arab Spring or the chaos that followed the fall of Saddam in Iraq. The only way to keep the Middle East stable is for strong leaders with dictatorial powers to be in charge.
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:07 pm to
Can't argue with any of that Darth.


We wanted to free them from the tyranny. They can't handle the freedom.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:13 pm to
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Can't argue with any of that Darth.


We wanted to free them from the tyranny. They can't handle the freedom.


For a long time we've misguidedly been seeking a "free & democratic" Middle East and this has directly let to much of the strife and instability we're seeing today across the region. Instead, we should be focused simply on a "stable & quiet" Middle East.
Posted by klrstix
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:15 pm to
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I'd say there's a better than 50% chance they've at least helped speed Iran along to their own bomb.


I have often wondered if Russia has or will allow Iranian personnel to work on developing design and material offsite in Russia away from prying eyes and inspections..

This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 4:30 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Russia, Syria, and Iran teaming up in Baghdad...

Supposedly to fight ISIS.
Proof positive that we created ISIS.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:20 pm to
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For a long time we've misguidedly been seeking a "free & democratic" Middle East
Perhaps since 1953 when we overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of Iran.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:22 pm to
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If you ask a liberal today about it they'll tell you the notion of Iraq having weapons of mass destruction was a lie first made up by Bush & Cheney in the early 2000's... all while ignoring the fact Clinton bombed the shite out of Iraq for this very reason years before.


Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:23 pm to
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I have often wondered if Russia has or will allow Iranian personnel to work on developing design and material offsite in Russia away from prying eyes and inpections..


That is an interesting thought, sir.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:26 pm to
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I have often wondered if Russia has or will allow Iranian personnel to work on developing design and material offsite in Russia away from prying eyes and inpections..


That is an interesting thought, sir.


If I were a betting man, my money would be on yes.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:29 pm to
That doesn't make any sense. If Russia wanted Iran to have nukes they could just email a PDF of the schematics. Why go through the trouble of bringing Iranian scientist to Russian soil to work on an Iranian bomb?
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:29 pm to
Wait I thought liberals were always right?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:42 pm to
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That doesn't make any sense. If Russia wanted Iran to have nukes they could just email a PDF of the schematics. Why go through the trouble of bringing Iranian scientist to Russian soil to work on an Iranian bomb?


You are aware that most of the advancements on Iran's nuclear program have come via Russian assistance, right?

Also, to your point. The whole world, and especially Israel, is closely watching everything that goes on in Iran that has anything to do with nuclear power. In fact, Israel in the past several years has done more to slow down Iran's march to the bomb than anyone else in the world by killing Iran's top nuclear scientists. Of course Obama pressured Israel to stop killing Iranian nuclear scientists last year. I wonder why?. Os as you can see, the security risks of developing Iran's nuclear program inside Iran is risky. It's safer to send those scientists to Russia where they can do their work in a much more secure area away from the prying eyes of the world.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:45 pm to
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It's safer to send those scientists to Russia where they can do their work in a much more secure area away from the prying eyes of the world.


Very well said, sir. I would be willing to bet there is far more troubling stuff hidden from view concerning our anointed one and his deal with Iran.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:48 pm to
Yeah bit if Russia wants Iran to have the bomb then why do the Iranians need to do any work in the first place?
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:50 pm to
Weird, one of my friends in the army is being deployed to that region in a few weeks. Maybe I should let him know..
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Weird, one of my friends in the army is being deployed to that region in a few weeks. Maybe I should let him know..


Being deployed somewhere does not mean there's a war.

Nato ends combat operations in Afghanistan

Obama hails end of combat operations in Afghanistan

Here's What US Troops In Afghanistan Are Doing Now That Combat Operations Have Ended
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:02 pm to
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They are still deploying to a combat zone and seeing combat


Where is this combat you speak of? What country are you in? Are you even in the military?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Yeah bit if Russia wants Iran to have the bomb then why do the Iranians need to do any work in the first place?


Russia can't just give Iran some of it's own bombs. If something happens and that bomb were used, even worse, given to terrorist and then used, and it's traced back to having been a Russian made bomb, then the political ramifications against Russia will be huge. It's best, and more profitable, for Russia to sell Iran the tools and know-how to build it's own bomb.
Posted by Chuckiee
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Russia can't just give Iran some of it's own bombs. If something happens and that bomb were used, even worse, given to terrorist and then used, and it's traced back to having been a Russian made bomb, then the political ramifications against Russia will be huge. It's best, and more profitable, for Russia to sell Iran the tools and know-how to build it's own bomb


Dropping knowledge, just like bombs
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Where is this combat you speak of? What country are you in? Are you even in the military?




Bro, he's in the Air Force. They get hazardous duty pay if they have to go in the same building as Marines.
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