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Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:25 pm to Darth_Vader
A Typhoon is nothing but a gigantic noisy piece of shite.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I just did some looking around on Google Maps which is fun, looks like this might be its base. Hell that might actually be the submarine itself.
That's not it... but if you look at the entrance to that harbor, there appears to be two of them docked together.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:28 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Thanks. So strategically this means nothing other than signaling whatever they are trying to signal to NATO?
Strategically it means shite
The Russians would never place a SSBN in the Baltic during a wartime scenario for the following reasons
1. NATO sonar sensors cover the entire Baltic Sea
2. Baltic Sea is shallow and the best defense for a SSBN is to "go deep"
3. Way too many NATO surface and air antisubmarine assets in range as well as very capable submarines operated by Germany, Norway, and UK
4. Land based cruise missiles can do the same job
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:28 pm to DavidTheGnome
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No? Where did I say that?
not meant to be a poli statement but we have a history of allying up to people in parts of the world that we don't truly consider allies but are either the most stable or lesser of other evils of in the region
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:29 pm to LSUBoo
Sure enough, thanks. I see several smaller subs docked around there as well with plenty of other naval vessels.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:29 pm to boddagetta
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A Typhoon is nothing but a gigantic noisy piece of shite.
That's what I've been trying to tell them, my bubble-headed brethren. Ain't nobody been scared of a Typhoon since the Cold War.
This particular boat from the OP actually sat in the shipyards for 12 fricking years before they finally did an overhaul. It's nothing more than a throwback relic from the 1980's.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:29 pm to Darth_Vader
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Typhoon-class sub
I thought all the Typhoons were phased out? thats an 80s era sub if I'm not mistaken.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:29 pm to terd ferguson
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I'm just laying out info to counter-balance your OP. That article makes it sound like the world should shite its collective pants bc some outdated Soviet hunk of shite is actually able to limp back out to sea. The Russians have some scary military equipment... but a Typhoon ain't one of them. One of our fast attacks could sink that thing at will.
Honest question to those who know more about sub warfare than myself.
I know out fast attack boats could sink this giant boomer with ease. Boomers are by nature vulnerable to fast attack boats. That's true on both sides. We can sink their boomers and they can sink ours.
But can they sink it before it launches it's missiles? Like let's say the Russians order it to go to point X, lay on the bottom there for X amount of time and then launch all missiles. Can we do anything about it?
I ask because while it's great that we can sink this thing, that won't matter if it's already launched it's payload.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:30 pm to terd ferguson
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terd ferguson
Layeth the smackdown, you do, my brethren.
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But can they sink it before it launches it's missiles? Like let's say the Russians order it to go to point X, lay on the bottom there for X amount of time and then launch all missiles. Can we do anything about it?
These things are being tracked 24/7 by the navy. If there's ever a time when the US suspects Russia go nuclear there will be a massive pre-emptive strike which will include destroying their submarine fleet.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:31 pm to 777Tiger
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not meant to be a poli statement but we have a history of allying up to people in parts of the world that we don't truly consider allies but are either the most stable or lesser of other evils of in the region
And how does that usually turn out for us?
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:32 pm to DavidTheGnome
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And how does that usually turn out for us?
they stopped calling to ask for my input long ago
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:32 pm to Lakeboy7
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I thought all the Typhoons were phased out? thats an 80s era sub if I'm not mistaken.
The target date to scrap all Typhoons is 2020
They are decomming two Typhoons in 2018
Wanna know how they are paying to decomm the Typhoon? US and Canadian tax dollars provides 80% funding for scraping a Typhoon.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:33 pm to Darth_Vader
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Measuring 574-foot in length and equipped with a total of 200 deadly weapons, it is one of the most feared vessels of the Cold War era.
Except it's 574-feet and has a radar signature the size of the Chrysler building....
I'll take US Navy for the win.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:35 pm to Darth_Vader
I know we can track the Typhoons from the time they leave the harbor... I'm not sure about their new boomers.
From what I know, nobody is going to track our Ohio-class boats. Every sub has to transit on the surface until they get to a point deep enough to submerge. You can track them on the surface but once our boomers submerge you aren't going to keep track of them unless they're running a flank speed the entire time.
When an Ohio-class boat goes out it is assigned a square of ocean... and it can be anywhere inside that square. Most of the time even our own people on land don't know the sub's exact location... just the captain and crew.
From what I know, nobody is going to track our Ohio-class boats. Every sub has to transit on the surface until they get to a point deep enough to submerge. You can track them on the surface but once our boomers submerge you aren't going to keep track of them unless they're running a flank speed the entire time.
When an Ohio-class boat goes out it is assigned a square of ocean... and it can be anywhere inside that square. Most of the time even our own people on land don't know the sub's exact location... just the captain and crew.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:36 pm to 777Tiger
isguising it as oceanic "research," think it was a the Glomar Challenger's true purpose for being built.
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That was the Glomar Explorer. The cover story was the mining of deep sea minerals. It was built specifically to raise the Soviet sub, which explains the moonpool being ~ 210' long instead of the normal 30' or 40'.
I think the Glomar Challenger is the one that sank in a typhoon in someplace like the Java Sea, with loss of all hands.
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That was the Glomar Explorer. The cover story was the mining of deep sea minerals. It was built specifically to raise the Soviet sub, which explains the moonpool being ~ 210' long instead of the normal 30' or 40'.
I think the Glomar Challenger is the one that sank in a typhoon in someplace like the Java Sea, with loss of all hands.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:36 pm to rmnldr
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terd ferguson
Way to take credit for something I said on page 1. You A-gangin, "I like to blow Torpedomen" frickstick
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:37 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Wanna know how they are paying to decomm the Typhoon? US and Canadian tax dollars provides 80% funding for scraping a Typhoon.
That's been going on for a long time. I remember back in my Sub School days hearing that the US was doing a lot of Russia's decom work because they were literally letting the submarines sink next to the pier... with a nuclear reactor still onboard.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:38 pm to rmnldr
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These things are being tracked 24/7 by the navy. If there's ever a time when the US suspects Russia go nuclear there will be a massive pre-emptive strike which will include destroying their submarine fleet
I understand that.
But (as much as I hate to admit it) our intelligence has been known to miss a few things from time to time. Let's say we've got a fast attack boat on this thing's tail but it's not received any word on any preemptive strike. All of a sudden this monster starts flooding it's missile tubes. Can our fast attack sub kill it before it can launch if there is no warning before hand and we don't know anything is going on until we hear those tubes being flooded?
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:38 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Tigeralum2008
I don't read your posts, nuclear trained homosex.
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