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re: Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because gorilla never became human

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Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:41 pm to
What is it called when it is impossible to distinguish between a sufficiently extreme position and a parody of that position? I've lost track of what I think is a troll and what isn't. I have a tendency to think almost everyone is just fricking around.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:41 pm to
Teach a man to fish.....
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:43 pm to
I believe in Creation. I do keep an open mind and seek knowledge even at my elder age.

Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:43 pm to
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What is it called when it is impossible to distinguish between a sufficiently extreme position and a parody of that position? I've lost track of what I think is a troll and what isn't. I have a tendency to think almost everyone is just fricking around.


It is getting harder. I do think people like Demon Slayer Who Shall Not Be Named is a true believer. We know that lunatic DawgfaninCA is. Dude believes he's seen giant sea serpents and the whole scientific community is against him. And we've found links to his "evidence", etc.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:44 pm to
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I believe in Creation.


And this means...what?
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:44 pm to
This might be the dumbest thread I ever been apart of.
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:47 pm to
I'll give you mine. Evolution is descent with modification. Natural selection is the mechanism.

I believe in natural selection. Evolution, on a larger scale, is, at the very least, unprovable if not fiction for adults like he said.

One of the larger problems I have with evolution is DNA/MRNA. DNA needs MRNA to send out the messages. So, how did DNA ultimately get "read"? It sent a message to create MRNA without MRNA in existence to read it?

I don't believe in evolution. No one has ever witnessed one "kind" become a different "kind". There's a problem with the definition of "species". Just because a virus "evolves" via natural selection doesn't mean that it ceases to be a virus.

Having said that, I have problems with God as well on a personal level. I believe in a creator, but I have issues with the God of the Bible. He's allegedly love, and love is allegedly kind, but kids getting Cancer outside the realm of a personal choice or the "system" genetics doesn't seem kind to me.
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:48 pm to
Poe's Law
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:51 pm to
Most cancers are proven to be man made creations that cause cancerous mutations to body cells. If this is wrong y'all can straighten me out.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:52 pm to
Oh it gets dumber. You know shite is off the chain when people start talking about summoning demons and slaying them, being summoned to God's thrown room, and pine tree elephants.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:53 pm to
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I'll give you mine. Evolution is descent with modification. Natural selection is the mechanism.

I believe in natural selection. Evolution, on a larger scale, is, at the very least, unprovable if not fiction for adults like he said.

One of the larger problems I have with evolution is DNA/MRNA. DNA needs MRNA to send out the messages. So, how did DNA ultimately get "read"? It sent a message to create MRNA without MRNA in existence to read it?

I don't believe in evolution. No one has ever witnessed one "kind" become a different "kind". There's a problem with the definition of "species". Just because a virus "evolves" via natural selection doesn't mean that it ceases to be a virus.

Having said that, I have problems with God as well on a personal level. I believe in a creator, but I have issues with the God of the Bible. He's allegedly love, and love is allegedly kind, but kids getting Cancer outside the realm of a personal choice or the "system" genetics doesn't seem kind to me.


First...using the word "kind" twice is kind of a tell.

But having said that, I'll address this.

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No one has ever witnessed one "kind" become a different "kind".


You're addressing the false notion of micro versus macro evolution. It's a strawman. There is no difference, only time scale. It's like saying no one has ever seen an oak tree grow from acorn to maturity and then die. Does that mean we don;t understand how oak trees work? Nope...just means our lifespans do not coincide with the timescale needed to see that particular phenomenon.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:56 pm to
Should I start with the LUA or the LCA between humans and apes? Both are hilarious Words that fill these claims and their "evidence" always include: Should, Would, could, we think, possibly, etc. Scientists search for "evidence" from the belief that evolution is true. The same way Christians look for "evidence" of God's work. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:57 pm to
Growing from a seed into a tree is substantially different than human beings ultimately "evolving" from birds.

If evolution were a result of a few hundred years over the course of recorded history, I would probably believe in evolution

It's not. It's stretched out over billions of years. It pertains largely to time.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:58 pm to
Oh boy
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:00 pm to
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If evolution were a result of a few hundred years over the course of recorded history, I would probably believe in evolution


Its the exact opposite.

Learn about how the process works.
Posted by studentsect
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:00 pm to
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If evolution were a result of a few hundred years over the course of recorded history, I would probably believe in evolution


So if it were less believable you would believe in it. Got it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:01 pm to
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So if it were less believable you would believe in it. Got it.



Exactly.

"If the process made no scientific sense whatsoever it would make more sense!"
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:01 pm to
No. If the evidence were demonstrable, I would be more likely to believe in it.
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:06 pm to
It was hypothetical. "If it were..."

Making it demonstrable over recorded history with eyewitness accounts of one "kind" becoming another "kind" would make it more believable. I understand the theory. It depends on stretching everything out over billions of years because of descent with modification ultimately leading to higher levels of organization.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:06 pm to
Rush is a professional arguer, and this point is hard to argue in a radio segment.
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