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re: Runners vs Bikers

Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:57 pm to
I used to run a lot. But as I've gotten older I have switched to more cycling and swimming since running beats me up now.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:01 pm to
This from a guy who's had 3 surgeries on just my right knee. I can no longer jog, but I can cycle for hours with no ill effects. When I do cycle, I do so on the Mississippi River Levee bike path for the most part.

It is safe from a vehicular traffic point of view but you just have to watch out for the folks walking their dogs with those retractable leashes who let their dog have 20 ft. of space on all sides of them to roam.

And every once in a while you will run into commercial traffic crossing the bike path to get to industrial facilities, but that is not really an issue.

Posted by OldTigahFot
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:26 pm to
I am 67 years old. I alternate walking and bike-riding (mountain bike in the neighborhood). I have found that 10-speed riders are thoughtless, arrogant and inconsiderate. It seems the level of a-holery is proportional to the amount of spandex.

Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:42 pm to
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I am 67 years old.


65 here but do ride a road bike that is 21 speed that I got several years ago now. I know what you mean by a-holery as I see it even on the bike paths I like to ride on. It never fails I'll be riding along at 15-18 mph clip riding solo and get passed by a group of younger folks thinking they're in the Tour de France and going for the finish line.

The absolute worst are the ones that ride in the middle of the streets even though there's a designated bike lane off to the right hand side of the road.


As for spandex, I'll leave that to the ladies who are fit enough to wear it, but we all know there are many who definitely put the "span" in spandex.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:07 pm to
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It never fails I'll be riding along at 15-18 mph clip riding solo and get passed by a group of younger folks thinking they're in the Tour de France and going for the finish line.


I mean it's not exactly hard to go faster than 18 mph. No offense at all as its respectable. But if you are a strong rider, you may not be getting much of a workout at 18 mph. You are going to have to push it harder. I was looking to average 20 mph over 112 miles for my last race. Riding around at 18 so that I dont upset a slow rider is foolish. Be safe, be courteous, ride hard.

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The absolute worst are the ones that ride in the middle of the streets even though there's a designated bike lane off to the right hand side of the road.


Which brings us to this. Depends on the type of bike lane you mean. We have "multi use paths" where I live and I think they have a 15 mph speed limit. I would regularly hit 30 mph and have touched near 40. Those weren't meant for serious cycling. Now, when there is a good shoulder or bike lane, you should use it. But sometimes the road is a perfectly safe and logical place to ride. I admit I do all training inside now on a trainer. Because I know not everyone feels the same way and some drivers are willing to put my life at risk to let me know that. Not to mention texting, etc..

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we all know there are many who definitely put the "span" in spandex.


Not everyone is fat.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:15 pm to
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I mean it's not exactly hard to go faster than 18 mph. No offense at all as its respectable. But if you are a strong rider, you may not be getting much of a workout at 18 mph.


Did you not read the part where I said I am 65. When I was younger I could push a lot harder, had better cardio and didn't have 3 surgeries on my right knee.


Before the surgeries started I was an avid jogger/runner and got to where I could run 10 miles in 1 hours time for a 6 minute a mile pace, which is pretty respectable for a rank amateur runner not looking to compete.

I'm thankful I can do what I do at my age.
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:17 pm to
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I would regularly hit 30 mph and have touched near 40.


Took a couple post, we found that guy.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:23 pm to
Like I said, no offense. That wasnt a backhanded OT response. I really meant no offense. I was 29 years old struggling to average 18 as an out of shape couch potato. Its respectable at any age. But are you saying its disrespectful to be someone who can go faster. That passing up makes you seem as though you are sprinting in the Tour?

When I got serious, I started riding with fast guys. It doesn't take a pro to go faster than 20 mph, especially in a group. I can think of about 5 rides a week I can join in distance from my house that are going to push that hard easily. Should you not go that fast for the sake of not passing people?

There are tons of cycling assholes. I have been embarrassed to be with some before. But I also think anyone who takes it seriously gets labeled an a-hole immediately and that's not always true. The triathlon community around me us a pretty friendly and sociable group and most go out of their way to be respectful and call out others when they are doing wrong.

But again, it's a heated debate and I got tired of putting my life on the line for it.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:03 pm to
I was a big time runner from high school through my mid 20's. Have arthritis in my knees, hips and back at 59. Had to start taking meds for it last week. Riding my bike hurts my hips more now than walking does. Going to have to start doing aquatic exercises with the seniors.

Be careful. Don't put too much stress on your joints. I always did 20 minutes of stretching before I ran, thinking it would prevent damage to my body. I'd read as much info about what the safest ways to exercise are. I'm sure there's more out there than there was when I was that active.
Posted by canyon
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:05 pm to
Bikers...
come back and troll properly after you get your lazy arse off the couch
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:09 pm to
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Slow the frick up on trails. Your time isn’t that important.

You sound like the guy that wears headphones running on trails.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:16 pm to
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I would regularly hit 30 mph and have touched near 40.


I would regularly hit 40 mph and have touched near 50.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11841 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:23 pm to
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You sound like the guy that Says on your left


frick you especially.

Go the frick around or slow down for the on coming runners or bike riders fig.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 5:24 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20376 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:30 pm to
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But are you saying its disrespectful to be someone who can go faster. That passing up makes you seem as though you are sprinting in the Tour?


Hell no. I'm all for people pushing themselves when exercising as it is the only way to make gains. I've worked out with weights and to make strength gains, you can't be pushing light weights all the time---you have to stress your muscles and put them under duress to make progress.

I ride solo, so I don't have the pleasure of being behind a rider drafting and saving energy to push myself longer and go faster. When facing a headwind on my return leg, it's on me all the way back. And riding the top of the Mississippi River levee often finds me in a headwind, either on the out or back leg.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 5:32 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23123 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:32 pm to
I'm a mountain biker and man enough to admit that the sport, cycling, attracts dicks. Everyone is so anal about gear or diet or miles ridden it gets pretty annoying and embarrassing to be lumped together with a bunch of weenie bitches. However the act of riding a great trail is overall a fun experience.
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11841 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:41 pm to
This guy gets it.

I want to go 330 miles in a reasonable time, that means I have to bike it.

It will be way easier and subpar, however to cover the distance I need to consider it.

My plan is to run and walk it in sections. Then maybe I’ll take the easy way out.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 6:18 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 6:20 pm to
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StickD


Weird for a fat person to health shame someone.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10651 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 6:38 pm to
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Runners, joggers, and old lady walkers > assholes who think they are setting records speeds on their bicycles.


what about Ironman and triathletes???
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11841 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 6:40 pm to
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How insecure do you have to be to have an ego about what type of cardio you do?


Go back and read the op
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 6:42 pm
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