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re: Rodan & Fields // Women leaving full-time jobs

Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:30 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63769 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:30 am to
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A very basic sense of economics would scream that this is not a sustainable model for income.


They get pretty pissed when you use reason and facts to explain this to them FYI
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:30 am to
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They want to walk into Starbucks at 1030, still wearing their gym clothes so that everyone will know her husband places so much value on her physical appearance that he gladly pays all the bills and put that huge Louis Vuitton bag on her shoulder. It's every southern female's pinnacle of success


I have no problem with this
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11840 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:57 am to
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I love the marketing though. "Rodan and Fields." They nailed trying to make it sound classy and exclusive.


Sounds very 5th Avenue.

I don't know much about it but suspect if you can get in early and live in a growing community you can probably make bank... Like Mary Kay was at one time. Pink Cadillacs bros.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5367 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:36 am to
I had one in my newsfeed that got into "nerium" whatever tf that is.

Anyone know if its legit?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87750 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:37 am to
R&F isn't high end in clientele or sellers, from what I can tell. Maybe for pyramid schemes, I guess.

But most of the girls I know who are deep into it are the type who went to mediocre state schools, live in decent but not upscale suburbs and are doing this instead of going back to work after having kids. Nothing wrong with that, I just haven't seen anything to indicate there is any cache that accompanies the job or the products.

Rather, they spend all day on FB saying "I am so proud of these ladies!!!!" and thanking Jesus for Doctors Rodan and Fields (Creators of Proactive!)
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:39 am to
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some pyramid scheme makeup company

think Cutco for girls


This is a lot different than Cutco. Cutco is a bunch of high school and college kids selling pretty good knives to their parents’ friends.

This is housewives putting huge down-payments down of personal money for scam product that they hawk on Facebook and cold call people to buy.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87750 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:41 am to
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This is housewives putting huge down-payments down of personal money for scam product that they hawk on Facebook and cold call people to buy.



FWIW I don't think it's a scam product necessarily. It is ridiculously priced for Mary Kay quality shite. I only know this because my mom sold Mary Kay for a couple months one time and we had tons of stuff lying around for years (it was ok).
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:43 am to
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Then 2 seconds later being hassled to come to their stupid R&F party and realizing this is a SALES TACTIC PUSHED BY THE COMPANY to their salespersons.



I went to one of these begrudgingly.

Drank an entire bottle of free wine and stared at TD on my phone the whole time and left.

Success!
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26246 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:43 am to
We just found our OT R and F consultant.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22346 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:45 am to
Being that I haven't been approached by 8 of them this morning yet, they aren't as bad as Team National
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38378 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:59 am to
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Yeah I don't care if you want to use fb to sell your stuff. Just don't trick me and take advantage of my friendship in the process. And don't make EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE on FB be about how "AMAZING" the latest skin product is.


Back in my more naive days when I was in my 20's, an older acquaintance invited me to a meeting at a local hotel conference room to hear about a great "business opportunity". I was just out of college and broke, so I said "what the hell". Of course, it turns out that it was an Amway thing. I never did look at that acquaintance the same after he duped me into going to that bullshite.

I also spent a week trying to sell Cutco...same time period. The guy that ran it in Baton Rouge was an absolute snake...name was Raphael something, I think. Those knives are good quality, to be sure, but very expensive...and my chronically middle-class family members basically laughed at me when I tried to sell to them.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:00 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:33 am to
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FWIW I don't think it's a scam product necessarily. It is ridiculously priced for Mary Kay quality shite. I only know this because my mom sold Mary Kay for a couple months one time and we had tons of stuff lying around for years (it was ok).


Basically what I mean. Its 10x more expensive than it should be. They market it like its some miracle stuff and its really just standard creams and stuff that you can get at any mall for way less.

They are riding their own ProActive coattails. Its smart business on their part.
Posted by lpgreat1
Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:51 am to
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When everyone interaction with one of these people becomes a sales pitch it can make you lose friends


When, for example, someone who was in your wedding party calls for the first time in probably a year and, surprise, has some schmo on the phone with her from Team National, and has no interest in catching up whatsoever, yeah I'd say this can happen.
Posted by lpgreat1
Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:56 am to
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They want to walk into Starbucks at 1030, still wearing their gym clothes so that everyone will know her husband places so much value on her physical appearance that he gladly pays all the bills and put that huge Louis Vuitton bag on her shoulder. It's every southern female's pinnacle of success


This is what young(ish) moms aspire to be because they look at themselves, dreaming of looking like they did in high school but being loaded at the same time...so they do whatever they can to dress the part.

When in reality, probably 10% of women who appear this way can actually afford it without piling up debt or doing God knows what else to essentially masquerade through life. And, 30-45 year old husbands like it because they have the illusion of looking "rich" and of the trophy wife, making them look attractive to other women at the same time.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7957 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:27 am to
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No, women just don't want to work. Period. They want to walk into Starbucks at 1030, still wearing their gym clothes so that everyone will know her husband places so much value on her physical appearance that he gladly pays all the bills and put that huge Louis Vuitton bag on her shoulder. It's every southern female's pinnacle of success.


Not married yet but I got no problem holding up the male end of that deal so long as my kids and house are being taken care of. Oh and I get to PIIHB.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:41 am to
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I got no problem holding up the male end of that deal so long as my kids and house are being taken care of.


Exactly.

My wife works right now as a nurse, but when we have kids we agreed she can stay home with them until they are all in school every day, if she wants to which she does. She'll just keep her nursing license current.

Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:45 am to
My wife sells it as supplemental income for our household while taking care of the kids all day. I have no issues with it
Posted by Dellort
Member since Jun 2014
553 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:21 pm to
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I have a friend who sells this. She works full-time as a nurse. She makes about 2500 a month off of R&F. Yes, I know this to be a fact. Tomorrow, I will call her and let everyone knows how she makes her money AND works a full-time job. She is also about to get a Lexus -- brand new 2015 with only insurance to pay on it.


Well that's odd cause I have a friend who makes 7,000 a month of R&F and is about to get her Lexus. Seems like your friend has quite a ways to go.

Does anyone know someone personally that has gotten this "White Lexus"? And no it can't be from someone you met at the R&F Convention in Bora Bora, Las Vegas, Paris, or Venice.

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While Advocare and others are pyramid schemes, so is just about everything else. Why do your bosses push you or why as you as a boss push another? You wanna make money, don't you?


My wife literally had that same line pushed on her this week when she had an offer to join the world's GREATEST company EVER. Was that published in your friends marketing manual this month? Came from a friend she hadn't heard from in YEARS who acted like she wanted to catch up only to find out the motive.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Slinky
Member since Dec 2013
3118 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:22 pm to
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What is Rodan & Fields?

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