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re: River Flooding in the Ohio Valley coming to Louisiana in mid March

Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:11 pm to
FWIW, Atchafalaya River at Morgan City is expected to crest @ 7.5 feet on 3/20. That's 3 feet short of 2011 and nearly 3/4 of a foot short of 2016.

Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:29 pm to
Yea, if current forecasts don't change, this year won't rival 2011 unless there's another large rain event in the midwest/Ohio River Valley areas.
Posted by Beefherinthequeefer
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:30 pm to
I’m flooded right now at my lake house. Lucky we are elevated
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

I’m flooded right now at my lake house. Lucky we are elevated

So you're not flooded.
Posted by Beefherinthequeefer
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:35 pm to
Our boathouse and launch is
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:44 pm to
I stand corrected.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

When the Levee Breaks


Wrong one


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Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 7:11 am to
Up to 42’ in BR now.
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:36 am to
Looks like they lowered the forecast to 41.9.

This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 8:37 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:02 am to
quote:

and launch is


To be fair one end of it is always flooded.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I think at the very least this rivals 2011. If there’s a significant amount of more rain up there then we may get to 2011 levels. Gonna be a test for the ORCS.


I agree. To already be forecasting 41.9 this far out is a bit concerning, especially with more rain still to come for the Mississippi and its tributaries up north.

2011 had the river about 5-6 feet from the top of the levee near the vet school, caused enough bubbling in and around Farr Park to have to rebuild a good chunk of the straigtaway on the River Road there as well as caused at least on significant soft spot under the I-10 bridge near the casino.

We don't need a repeat of that.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:22 am to
DFW and the Red River got shat on last night with rain. That has to factor in eventually no?

Edit: Wettest February on record

This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 9:24 am
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:29 am to
quote:

2011 had the river about 5-6 feet from the top of the levee near the vet school, caused enough bubbling in and around Farr Park to have to rebuild a good chunk of the straigtaway on the River Road there as well as caused at least on significant soft spot under the I-10 bridge near the casino.

We don't need a repeat of that.

I know someone who lives in Donaldsonville next to the levee there. In 2011 she started noticing moist spots on her floor inside her home. Called out plumbers, thinking a pipe was burst in her slab. No pipe issues.
Then the yard started having sand boils and within a few days after they showed up, her back yard was flooded with about 6" of water from seepage.
When the river went down the moist spots on her floor dried up and her yard dried up.
Every year since then, when the river comes up she has the same problem but it's a little worse than the year before.
The NFIP refuses to pay for any more damage to her home from her flood insurance policy since it happens every year. I believe she's suing them now, but it doesn't appear she's going to win.

The THEORY is, and again it's just a theory, is that there's a slurry under ground from the river extending into a small part of Donaldsonville and that each year the river comes up, the tremendous amount of pressure from the high levels pushes water further and further into that slurry.

Supposedly the ACE is concerned that if that slurry has enough pressure forced into it, it could potentially create a sinkhole, which would immediately open Donaldsonville and surrounding areas up to massive amounts of flooding. The chance is there for a catastrophe but yet nobody seems to be concerned or trying to do anything about it.

If that ever happens, every lawyer in the state will be there since the NFIP apparently knows about the problem but FEMA and the ACE aren't doing anything about it.

I can't back this story up with links or any other way of proving that it's fact since I'm just repeating what the homeowner has told me.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:30 am to
quote:

That has to factor in eventually no?



None of that makes it into the Mississippi River, all goes down the Atchafalaya.
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:32 am to
quote:

None of that makes it into the Mississippi River, all goes down the Atchafalaya.

quote:

Where does the Red River begin? The headwaters are the source of a stream/river. The Red River begins its total length of 1,360 miles in the Texas panhandle. The origins of the Red River are two forks (branches) in the Texas panhandle. The southern fork, Prairie Dog Town Fork, is formed in Randall County near Canyon, Texas. Prairie Dog Town Fork is formed from the confluence of Palo Duro Creek and Tierra Blanca Creek. The northern branch, North Fork, flows east entering Oklahoma. It then joins the southern branch at the Texas-Oklahoma border, northeast of Vernon, Texas. The Red River flows east, its south bank forming the border between Texas and Oklahoma and a portion of the border between Texas and Arkansas at the northeastern corner of Texas. The Red River flows into Arkansas and turns south at Fulton, Arkansas entering Louisiana near Ida. In Louisiana the Red River forms the boundary between Caddo and Bossier parishes and flows southeast, through Red River, Natchitoches, Rapides, and Avoyelles parishes to join a partial outflow from the Mississippi River into the Atchafalaya River.


quote:

Where does the Red River end? The Red River ends in Louisiana where it empties into the Mississippi River and the Atchafalaya. More specifically, the Red River ends as water from an outflow channel from the Mississippi River joins the Red River and flows into the Atchafalaya River near Simmesport, Louisiana. Water flowing from the Mississippi River into this outflow is regulated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers at the Old River Control Structure. The water from the Atchafalaya River flows into the Gulf of Mexico. Sediment deposited forms the Atchafalaya Delta.


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This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:35 am to
I heard of similar happenings near the Black River in Jonesville in 2016.
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:37 am to
quote:

I heard of similar happenings near the Black River in Jonesville in 2016.

I just can't fathom why the hell the federal government isn't trying to correct that issue. Can you imagine if the river gets high enough to force enough water into that slurry, combined with all that pressure, and it opens up via a sinkhole? It would immediately undercut the levee and erode the levee within a few hours.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40104 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:42 am to
Isn't ORCS what everyone is worried about though?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I just can't fathom why the hell the federal government isn't trying to correct that issue. Can you imagine if the river gets high enough to force enough water into that slurry, combined with all that pressure, and it opens up via a sinkhole? It would immediately undercut the levee and erode the levee within a few hours.


I'm not disputing the facts described, but wouldn't sinkhole be the wrong term. There won't be a sinkhole instead it will be a blowout, right?
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