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re: River at 19 storm surge could be 5. why didn't they open Morganza?

Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:14 pm to
Agreed
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Still, its a valid question as to why USACE isnt opening up more bays at Bonnet Carre to keep the Carrolton gauge at 17', as they are federally mandated to do.

Maybe because the Carrollton Gauge is at 16 feet?
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 5:21 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:22 pm to
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Maybe because the Carrollton Gauge is at 16 feet?


And scheduled to go higher.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:28 pm to
The models that are used to predict storm surge only has it going to 17' where that guage is. These are much more sophisticated models than what's used for river crest models that are bandied about.

ETA: It's projected to get about as high as it was in 2011.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2651 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:33 pm to
Opening the Bonnet Carre this late in the game wouldn't have affected the river enough to matter.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Opening the Bonnet Carre this late in the game wouldn't have affected the river enough to matter.


I know its already open... my point is why take the chance of the Carrolton gauge going above 17' when its relatively easy to avoid.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Still, its a valid question as to why USACE isnt opening up more bays at Bonnet Carre to keep the Carrolton gauge at 17', as they are federally mandated to do.


Waste of manpower for maybe a half an inch if water
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3781 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:43 pm to
I see OP has promptly disappeared after throwing out asinine information.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:48 pm to
I don't think opening the spillway is going to make much of a difference at this point, cowboy
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

you don't think the levee fails at 24'?


An 8 foot storm surge from a tropical depression (cat 1 at most)?


3 to 5.

High tide will be the issue if the eye is near at that time.

High intensity t storms will track.
Ideally to mobile
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5437 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:49 pm to
We know the river has never been this high this late in the year. We know the levees have had high water on them for 270 days. We don’t know what is about to happen. Why must we test it to the limit? I didn’t hear one remark about entering hurricane season without trying to lower the river as much as possible. “Hope is not a strategy.” I am not an expert, but I don’t think the experts are beyond reproach, especially in this state or in New Orleans.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
21026 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:03 pm to
Find a bridge, jump off of it.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:37 pm to

Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3152 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:14 pm to
How high would the lake water have to get to backflow the spillway? Theoretically speaking, if a cat 3 was to drive water in the lake, what would happen?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:23 pm to
I know for sure the Cats Meow is open tonight.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8604 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

and morganza has minimal effect on New Orleans, only helps BR area...

I mean that can't be more wrong. Any diverted water upstream would help New Orleans.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5923 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:57 pm to
How'd you get 60,000? I double checked my math and only getting to 47,000, max.
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21087 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:32 pm to
Katrina
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:41 pm to
This happened after they strengthened the levees and La Place etc flooded
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