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re: RIP Gene Hackman, wife Betsy, and his dog pass away at his New Mexico home
Posted on 3/1/25 at 7:28 am to IT_Dawg
Posted on 3/1/25 at 7:28 am to IT_Dawg
Hackman had kids in their 60s so likely adult grandchildren and great grand kids. Kinda crazy that no one checked on them in 9 days. He obviously was a shitty family member, I know he said acting took him away from family but he’s been retired for 20 years. You’d have thought someone would have grown closer to him in that time period to call him more routinely. When my grandfather was in his 80s I was calling him 2-3 times a week just to BS for 5-10 mins.
ETA: lol at the down votes and that’s fine I get it. But it’s the truth. I certainly hope if I’m 95 I have someone that would check on me more often.
Hackman was one of my favorite actors. But people with that lifestyle and money can be very crazy and weird in their personal lives
ETA: lol at the down votes and that’s fine I get it. But it’s the truth. I certainly hope if I’m 95 I have someone that would check on me more often.
Hackman was one of my favorite actors. But people with that lifestyle and money can be very crazy and weird in their personal lives
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 10:18 am
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 7:58 am to kywildcatfanone
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Sounds like she died and he just wondered around till he passed out and died. Dog might have died of starvation.
You didn't think it's the opposite? Gene died of a heart attack or fall. She loses it with grief and eats a bunch of pills. She probably was assuming all the dogs were loose, but didn't realize one got trapped in the bathroom / closet wherever when she's OD'd. Dog dies because it doesn't have access to food like the others.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:04 am to Smeg
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You didn't think it's the opposite? Gene died of a heart attack or fall. She loses it with grief and eats a bunch of pills.
No offense, but that sounds really outlandish .. If she found her husband after a fall, you dont think she at least tries to call 911 ? You think she just says ‘Frick it , im ending it all ‘ ? Let’s try to deal in reality here .
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:06 am to baldona
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Kinda crazy that no one checked on them in 9 days.
Not everyone has a really close relationship with their parents. Also rumored he had become a recluse.
Kids could have texted dad and didn't get a response and didn't think anything of it. Younger step mom was there to take care of him.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:08 am to BK Lounge
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If she found her husband after a fall, you dont think she at least tries to call 911 ? You think she just says ‘Frick it , im ending it all ‘ ? Let’s try to deal in reality here .
If he's obviously dead at 95 years old, there isn't much that can be done. They were married 30 years. She was already over 60 years old. May have decided just to join him in the afterlife, rather than live a few decades alone in a body that's going to continue fail.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:34 am to Smeg
You don't keel over right after taking a bunch of pills. It's not immediate.
Her being dead in the bathroom with a bunch of pills spilled around reeks of a movie scene, not reality.
Her being dead in the bathroom with a bunch of pills spilled around reeks of a movie scene, not reality.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:00 am to Smeg
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If he's obviously dead at 95 years old, there isn't much that can be done. They were married 30 years. She was already over 60 years old. May have decided just to join him in the afterlife, rather than live a few decades alone in a body that's going to continue fail.
Still a reach.. also, they were by all accounts big dog lovers, and as someone myself who’s had dogs that are like family- seems to me that at the very least she would have made sure the dogs were all free to access plenty of food and water, or more likely- made arrangements for the dogs prior to doing what she was planning to do, sent an email for someone to come check on the dogs right before she committed her act, or somehting along those lines.. not just let the dogs fend for themselves with one still locked in a crate .
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:05 am to baldona
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Hackman had kids in their 60s so likely adult grandchildren and great grand kids. Kinda crazy that no one checked on them in 9 days
His daughter was quoted in an article I read earlier this week in which she said they were very close, but she hadn't spoken with him in 2 months.
If you are close to your parents, how can you not speak with them for two months?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:07 am to Smeg
My understanding sounded like she died first based upon thr mummification of the bodies, but i guess more will come out.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:50 am to kywildcatfanone
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My understanding sounded like she died first based upon thr mummification of the bodies, but i guess more will come out.
This situation is bizarre. I read again this morning that carbon monoxide poisoning has been ruled out. CO poisoning is about the only thing that makes sense.
Both died, apparently days ago, in different parts of the house. Dog died enclosed in a closet in the bathroom where the wife is found. Who would have closed that door unless maybe the wife knocked it when she fell? No evidence of injuries to either of the bodies.
Wife is in the bathroom with a spilled pill bottle as if she was in the process of taking a medication, dropped the bottle and died.
Some sort of poison in the air seems to be a logical explanation.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:16 am to Gris Gris
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This situation is bizarre. I read again this morning that carbon monoxide poisoning has been ruled out. CO poisoning is about the only thing that makes sense.
It’s only bizarre if we assume the lived a normal life, which they likely didn’t live anywhere close to. He was very wealthy and obviously mostly estranged from family. She was Asian and probably very stubborn and set in her ways, extremely loyal to him.
He was probably a huge pita to take care of and she was exhausted trying to do it herself. If she died first and he had dementia it wouldn’t be crazy that he just fumbled around unable to call anyone for help. If he died first I could see someone after that life of 30 years together just popping the pills to go with him. It’s probably all she knew.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:18 am to BK Lounge
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No offense, but that sounds really outlandish .. If she found her husband after a fall, you dont think she at least tries to call 911 ? You think she just says ‘Frick it , im ending it all ‘ ?
The known physical evidence leads to the grief OD pill suicide theory, but it makes no logical sense. The guy was 95, frail, and had a pacemaker. It wouldn't have been an unexpected or tragic end. The wife certainly would have thought about it and probably stood to be fully taken care of after his passing.
Full autopsy and toxicology should be able to clear up who died of what. Determining who died first will probably be more difficult, especially if within a few hours of each other almost 3 weeks ago. The cops will probably have to make an educated guess on the physical evidence they find.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:20 am to Gris Gris
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Some sort of poison in the air seems to be a logical explanation.
I'm going with the rare occurrence of synchronized aneurysms.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:45 am to Gris Gris
Well, they did live close to the border so she could have had pills that were laced with fentanyl, that she didn't know were laced with fentanyl. She dies first in the bathroom....the dog supposably was a German Shepherd that was in a kennel. The kennel door was shut, so it couldn't get to water. Hackman had dementia...and anybody who's taken care of elderly folks knows that he probably wandered around, if he was able to walk very far at all....and once he fell, a 95-year-old cannot get off the floor by themselves, so he laid there till he died probably a couple days later. 3 days without water, and you're done. It kind of makes sense to me that she died, either of natural causes that she tried to take a pill for, or by taking something that was laced. The dog was already in the kennel and Hackman ended up on the floor and couldn't get up.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:50 am to Tigahs24Seven
You may or may not be right. To me, what’s sad about what you posted, is the fact that one could live an excellent life, full of celebrity and awards, a life of GREAT PURPOSE…and still just die as a 95 year old man, withered away, lying and dying on the floor because you were too frail to get up and too closed off from anyone caring enough to come check on you.
Life is a bitch.
Life is a bitch.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:02 am to Tigahs24Seven
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the dog supposably was a German Shepherd that was in a kennel. The kennel door was shut, so it couldn't get to water.
Seems like this was initially reported and then later, it was reported the dog was in a closet in the bathroom where the wife was. Guess we'll find out eventually which was true. Maybe the kennel was in some sort of closet looking room.
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Hackman had dementia
I haven't seen that reported anywhere. Do you have a link?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:10 am to Gris Gris
I had read by a supposed Hollywood insder that he had slight dementia and was pretty much chair bound or almost bedridden...could be false, but at 95 probably more apt to be true than not.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:18 am to Tigahs24Seven
His daughter claims he was in good physical condition doing pilates and yoga several times a week.
TMZ
TMZ
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While Gene was 95 years old, his daughter claims he was in very good physical condition, participating in activities like Pilates and yoga several times a week -- with his wife, Betsy Arakawa, playing an imperative role in his healthy lifestyle. As we reported, a close friend of Gene's tells us Betsy made sure GH stuck to a strict diet.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 2:15 pm to Gris Gris
What I think is odd is that they didn't have a housekeeper coming by at least once a week. Everyone I know that has money like they did would have a maid at least once a week, especially when you have three dogs.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 2:17 pm to Gris Gris
At 95, I'm eating steak every meal
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