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re: Rich kids get festival, poor kids get shamed

Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:31 am to
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Did you also walk to school up hill both ways




No, but I did have a catastrophic open lung surgery and play football a year later. I also lived in NOLA East and saw what happens when people get conditioned with receiving free stuff they didn't earn.

I feel for the kids, I really do as they didn't get to chose their parents, but at some point you have to try to break the cycle of just being handed free shite.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:32 am to
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That teacher is an idiot then. I think most of us would be thrilled to get a hot lunch at work for only $3.50.

Especially one that included school cafeteria buttered rolls


Exactly. To get a lunch equivalent to what they serve at school, I have to shell out at least $10-$12.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:32 am to
I know what the word means and I know a fascist when I come across one.
Posted by StupidBinder
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:32 am to
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The school has no mechanism for punishing the parents. Any action taken by the school will have to affect the kid in some manner.


That’s easily fixable. Put it on the property tax bill. Or have the sherriff’s office mail them a ticket with a court date if they don’t pay.

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Second, the consequence here is incredibly minor and has no long term negative effect on the child. Missing an hour of recreation, to which you were not entitled, is minimal.


If the effect is minor, then their is no point in doing it in the first place, especially when more effective measures (like the ones above) are possible.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:32 am to
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My wife works In the office at my kids school so I can give a bit of clarification on this.

1. Even if a kid has a zero or negative balance in their school lunch account, by law the school still has to serve that child a lunch. However, the kid cannot get extras with that lunch like ice cream or sweet tea if their account is empty. The child also cannot get breakfast if they do not have and money in their account. As for cokes, they do not allow any carbonated drinks in the lunch room. Kids aren't even allowed to bring them from home if I remember correctly.




That may be true at her school but is 100% not the norm.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:34 am to
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but at some point you have to try to break the cycle of just being handed free shite.



The story in the OP is a horrible attempt to do that. Breaking cycles start at home, not school
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:34 am to
Put your kid, if you have one, in a “break the cycle” scenario and see how gung ho you are
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:35 am to
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I know what the word means and I know a fascist when I come across one.


I'm sure my relatives from Poland and Lithuania would have a bone to pick over your definition.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:36 am to
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I know what the word means and I know a fascist when I come across one.


I highly doubt that considering you seem to equate fascism with conservatives.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:36 am to
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That may be true at her school but is 100% not the norm.


It is law. The one thing he forgot to add is kids with overdue balances aren’t dntitled to regular lunches. They can be served PBnJs and the like
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:36 am to
Do they even still serve the buttered rolls in the cafeteria? Those things were amazing.


Those things were treated like gold when I was in school(elementary, middle, and high school). Kids might not eat the rest of the stuff on their plates...but you never saw an uneaten roll on the dirty tray line
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:36 am to
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Put it on the property tax bill. Or have the sherriff’s office mail them a ticket with a court date if they don’t pay.


All of this requires changes to the law and a ticket is a criminal offense.

There is no mechanism for this enforcement.




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If the effect is minor, then their is no point in doing it in the first place, especially when more effective measures (like the ones above) are possible.


The negative effects are minor. The positive effect is instilling an understanding in young people the importance of meeting obligations.

Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:37 am to
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I know what the word means and I know a fascist when I come across one.


You just used that term to describe someone who was voicing their opinion that behavior should have consequences... No, you don't know.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:37 am to
Yeah. Who doesn’t?
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:37 am to
I know exactly what lies in your heart you cold hearted bastard.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:38 am to
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Yeah. Who doesn’t?


Educated people
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:38 am to
I've already said it's a dumbass mechanism.

That being said, I'm open to some smarter examples. Maybe the reduced/free lunches should be something insanely healthy, cheap, and not what kids want to eat.
Posted by BHM
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:38 am to
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What public school kid has an unpaid lunch balance... 



My grandson's entire school gets free lunch and free breakfast because a certain percentage qualified. A lot of six figure income families getting free lunch and breakfast.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:39 am to
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I'm sure my relatives from Poland and Lithuania would have a bone to pick over your definition.


Give these folks like Darth_Vader their way and it would happen here.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:40 am to
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Do they even still serve the buttered rolls in the cafeteria? Those things were amazing.


Those things were treated like gold when I was in school(elementary, middle, and high school). Kids might not eat the rest of the stuff on their plates...but you never saw an uneaten roll on the dirty tray line


I think they do, just not every day.
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