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re: Rhino poachers mauled and eaten by lions
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:09 pm to mdomingue
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:09 pm to mdomingue
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I was under the impression that Pittman Robertson required a percentage of moneys from state licensing and fees were to be used for wildlife management. I just read a brief description of it so it is highly likely I misunderstood.
Sorry, now I'm being a bit misleading. States do have to use that money for conservation and management if they want PR dollars, but if they didn't want the federal money, they could use the funding generated from license sales for other purposes. I'm not sure of any state that actually does that though, especially when funding from P-R and Dingel-Johnson has eclipsed $1 billion in the last few years. I could be mistaken on this, but I think they have to put all monies generated by license sales into management or conservation. There is a movement right now though to expand that to recruitment and retention activities due to the decreasing number of hunters today.
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:09 pm to Crow Pie
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How much hunting is done at Yellowstone?
Did you just seriously compare the wealth and resources of the United States of America to some impoverished African nation???
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:10 pm to ZappBrannigan
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This was a bunch of morons that wandered right into nature. Pure fricking savannah.
I am happy they were killed by lions. My point relates to the thread where a leopard killed a small child (outside of the protected fence) a few months ago at night...just doing what a prey animal does but everybody thought the leopard should be killed.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:21 pm to Cowboyfan89
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The simple truth is that hunting often benefits conservation
Yes, it benefits deer populations in the U.S. Not rhino hunting in Africa. Most trophy hunters flying to Africa would absolutely wipe out a species, or make them functionally extinct, and move on to the next. They aren't there because they care about sustaining a fragmented population of a species under severe threat.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:31 pm to Reservoir dawg
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Not rhino hunting in Africa.
The people who study rhinos sure say otherwise.
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They aren't there because they care about sustaining a fragmented population of a species under severe threat.
Neither are most deer or duck hunters. Sure, deer and ducks aren't imperiled, but there are plenty of people who don't care if people 100 years from now get to enjoy them. That's why people shoot over the limit, shoot out of season, and are in general shitty examples of hunters. Really, they aren't hunters at all. They are poachers.
Modern, regulated hunting has never resulted in the extinction of a species.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:34 pm to 632627
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these kill shots make it clear that the hunters take great pride in the killing of an animal, not the saving of a species.
So? What's your point? Are you insisting that hunters can't enjoy the taking of an animal AND help in the conservation of said animal?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:40 pm to 632627
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lol ok shooting a giraffe from 100s of yards away with a high powered rifle is the satisfaction of a primal need.
Do you know how I know you don't hunt? Don't pretend to know about something through and through which you haven't done.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:56 pm to Barbellthor
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Do you know how I know you don't hunt? Don't pretend to know about something through and through which you haven't done.
we get it, you like to kill shite just for fun, or to satisfy some primal need.
fyi- eating and fricking are primal needs. killing lions in Africa to hang their pelts on my wall isnt.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 2:13 pm to ZappBrannigan
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For perspective and using a still debated theory on The Toba Eruption.
Big difference between Homo sapiens and Panthera Leo. Humans are the most adaptable species ever to exist. Lions are generally locked into their immediate environment and exist today in small numbers spread across a wide area.
They're doomed. They may live on in zoos and their DNA might be preserved for future repopulation if humanity's successor deems them valuable. However, their days in the wild are numbered. They simply can't rebound the way humans did.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 7/6/18 at 2:16 pm to Barbellthor
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Do you know how I know you don't hunt? Don't pretend to know about something through and through which you haven't done.
oh, we all hunt, you think we're out there buying drinks for nothing?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 2:30 pm to Barbellthor
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Barbellthor
damn we got a giraffe hunter on the OT
Posted on 7/6/18 at 2:44 pm to LSU316
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Yep I'd like to see some lions take out some bleeding heart liberals too.
I would pay money to watch Maxine Waters be eaten by lions. I genuinely hope she dies of a-hole cancer.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:11 pm to Kentucker
That's a dismal look. It's not like we haven't brought back species from the brink before. Pandas are admittedly a boondoggle. But lions like to frick. Given room and a breather by winning in the western conservation against Eastern poaching, we should have the genetic stock for a healthy wild population.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:18 pm to 632627
Ok so take out the hunters and the money. Who makes up in paying for anti-poaching dogs, anti-poaching squads, arming and equipping those squads?
You have to monetize somewhere for people to be willing to exchange fire with poachers and for local villagers to be proactive in making sure a source of food and income doesn't go kaput.
This isnt the days of trains in the west annihilating herds of buffalo. This is countries and territories operating lumber licensing except on animals. That is sustainable as long as everyone is in mostly good faith.
You have to monetize somewhere for people to be willing to exchange fire with poachers and for local villagers to be proactive in making sure a source of food and income doesn't go kaput.
This isnt the days of trains in the west annihilating herds of buffalo. This is countries and territories operating lumber licensing except on animals. That is sustainable as long as everyone is in mostly good faith.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 4:31 pm to ZappBrannigan
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That's a dismal look. It's not like we haven't brought back species from the brink before. Pandas are admittedly a boondoggle. But lions like to frick. Given room and a breather by winning in the western conservation against Eastern poaching, we should have the genetic stock for a healthy wild population.
African humans are breeding like rabbits. The world's highest rate of population increase is on that continent.
By 2100 there are projected to be 5 billion Africans. Lions might like to frick but here again they simply can't hold a candle to human frickers.
Zoos and frozen embryo storage facilities are their only hope for remaining extant. Until the human population reaches Malthusian levels, all other species are in danger of going extinct because of our thirst for resources.
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