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re: Reuters has a front page story on the EBR Parish Prison up this morning.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:13 am to Tiger in NY
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:13 am to Tiger in NY
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ETA: Classic BR
They don't understand that getting these people their meds and having an outpatient place for them is cheaper than housing them in concrete and steel around badass criminals who have no excuse.
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:19 am to GeauxOCDP
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How much would it really cost to help these people try to become honest members of society, versus paying for 20 trips to jail/food/etc. Until they eventually die in prison. One or two rehab stays would seemingly be much cheaper for all of us.
something like 3 out of 4 prisoners will end up back in prison. Sorry, i'm not helping them, mental illness or not.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:32 am to GeauxOCDP
I'm all for helping these prople too.
I don't know what it would cost, or even how many mentally ill people are involved, but the tax was for six million a year.
Now is it like the COA where they ask for a lot? Is six million the right amount?
I don't know, but I'm very leery of just giving these prople what they ask for because we get burnt all the time.
I don't know what it would cost, or even how many mentally ill people are involved, but the tax was for six million a year.
Now is it like the COA where they ask for a lot? Is six million the right amount?
I don't know, but I'm very leery of just giving these prople what they ask for because we get burnt all the time.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:37 am to LSUBoo
I voted against the hotel tax both times.
Why?
Becsuse too much of the tax was going to a private group (visit BR) and not to a govt. entity.
Visit BR can't spend all what they have now. They had a surplus. They are like the COA in that they aren't part of govt. and there is little govt. oversight.
Why?
Becsuse too much of the tax was going to a private group (visit BR) and not to a govt. entity.
Visit BR can't spend all what they have now. They had a surplus. They are like the COA in that they aren't part of govt. and there is little govt. oversight.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:40 am to High C
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Plenty on this very board.
"Just get some exercise."
"You just need a hobby to keep you busy.
Yeah that thinking pisses me off. I had a good friend at LSU who up until he was about 20 years old was a normal person, high achieving student athlete ( he was a swimmer). But by the time he was 21 he was diagnosed with Bipolar / schizophrenia. If you've never been around a person that descends into that darkness, you are lucky, it's excruciating to watch. For 5 or 6 years after that his sister and a few of us were tasked (by our own volition) for periodically bailing him out of jail for b.s. charges like disturbing the peace , etc. the deputies at the jail didn't like having him in there because when we would get him his meds, he was a lucid, non problematic guy.
This was 20+ years ago when mental illness was really considered a major personal failing/taboo and getting the meds was not near as easy as today.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:43 am to TeddyPadillac
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something like 3 out of 4 prisoners will end up back in prison. Sorry, i'm not helping them, mental illness or not.
I can't tell if you're trolling, ignorant, or just actually a piece of shite. The entire point is that revolving jail stays for mentally ill people do nothing to solve the issue and in fact exacerbate it by putting them in the hands of people who aren't qualified to treat them, but charge the taxpayer more to do so.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:47 am to doubleb
Is a mental health facility needed? 100% yes.
Am I going to vote for yet another tax in Baton Rouge that will be handed off to some quasi-governmental agency that will waste it? NO.
Until I have confidence the money will be used wisely, I am a no vote on any and all tax measures. Period. End of story. If the Mayor and Metro Council had an ounce of sense they would understand this and fix their shite.
Am I going to vote for yet another tax in Baton Rouge that will be handed off to some quasi-governmental agency that will waste it? NO.
Until I have confidence the money will be used wisely, I am a no vote on any and all tax measures. Period. End of story. If the Mayor and Metro Council had an ounce of sense they would understand this and fix their shite.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:01 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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The entire point is that revolving jail stays for mentally ill people do nothing to solve the issue and in fact exacerbate it by putting them in the hands of people who aren't qualified to treat them, but charge the taxpayer more to do so.
Why did they go to jail in the first place?
Why is it my responsibility as a tax payer to help those with mental illnesses?
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:04 am to jbgleason
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Is a mental health facility needed? 100% yes.
Am I going to vote for yet another tax in Baton Rouge that will be handed off to some quasi-governmental agency that will waste it? NO.
Until I have confidence the money will be used wisely, I am a no vote on any and all tax measures. Period. End of story. If the Mayor and Metro Council had an ounce of sense they would understand this and fix their shite.
So what you are saying, using the the local politics and the time honored excuse of the local government being corrupt as a crutch, is that you really don't give a shite about this and it would be better if we just locked them all up and have the criminal justice system pay for it. The reality is that most don't want to pay for it...maybe because you don't understand.
Having professionals doing this who know what they are doing is cheaper than putting them in the hoosegow.
If you are looking for confidence that the money would be used wisely, what would it take to show you that it is being used wisely. Mental illness is a bigger problem in this society than most of us care to mention or admit.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:12 am to KiwiHead
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Mental illness is a bigger problem in this society than most of us care to mention or admit.
Shitty parenting is a bigger problem.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:13 am to LSUTigersVCURams
It’s not a shortage of prison staffing, it’s a shortage of psychiatric staff in the greater BR area.
Try and get in to see one as a new patient and you will be told you can get in in a few months. We found that one out when my stepdaughter moved down her and got a diagnosis of something requiring an appointment with one to check for related conditions.
As far as inpatient psychiatric care goes, that’s been an ongoing issue for about 50 years since the big push to de-institutionalize the mentally ill in the 60s and 70s after One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest was published.
Try and get in to see one as a new patient and you will be told you can get in in a few months. We found that one out when my stepdaughter moved down her and got a diagnosis of something requiring an appointment with one to check for related conditions.
As far as inpatient psychiatric care goes, that’s been an ongoing issue for about 50 years since the big push to de-institutionalize the mentally ill in the 60s and 70s after One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest was published.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:17 am to doubleb
Unles EBR operates differently than the rest of the state the parish pays for jail
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:42 pm to KiwiHead
It would take responsible people, professional people, and people with s business plan telling me what we really need, what they need to improve things and we don't get that from our mayor or our parish leaders.
We've been burned too many times.
We've been burned too many times.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:43 pm to doubleb
Like I said , the old "our politicians are incompetent theives" excuse......you would say the same thing if Tom Ed McHugh were mayor, because ten you would say you did not trust the city parish council
Admit it, you wouldn't pay irrespective of who was running the show. No matter what the business plan. That's Louisiana, mental illness HAS to be some sort of personal moral failing.....right?
Admit it, you wouldn't pay irrespective of who was running the show. No matter what the business plan. That's Louisiana, mental illness HAS to be some sort of personal moral failing.....right?
Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:44 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Everyone claims a mental illness so just give them all cocaine and heroin
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