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Residential Home Construction - Companies to do a material take-off
Posted on 3/9/24 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 3/9/24 at 12:54 pm
Hi IM thinking about building my home without a GC and am wanting to take my plans to a company that can do a material take-off for cost estimates to build in Baton Rouge/Central area.
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Posted on 3/9/24 at 12:56 pm to Tigertracks23
Subs should be able to do that.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 12:59 pm to Tigertracks23
Just give it to your subs, add 150k, a river of tears and a mountain of frustration and you should be in the ballpark.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 1:05 pm to Tigertracks23
Enjoy the experience. It will be fun.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 1:08 pm to Tigertracks23
Square footage? I can do take offs for ya.
<2000 sqft $6500
>2000 sqft $8500 +$100 sqft over 3000
<2000 sqft $6500
>2000 sqft $8500 +$100 sqft over 3000
Posted on 3/9/24 at 2:07 pm to Tigertracks23
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IM thinking about building my home without a GC and am wanting to take my plans to a company that can do a material take-off for cost estimates to build in Baton Rouge/Central area
So you want a contractor
Posted on 3/9/24 at 2:08 pm to Tigertracks23
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Hi IM thinking about building my home without a GC
Welcome to the suck
Posted on 3/9/24 at 2:33 pm to Tigertracks23
I’ll do it for ~tree fiddy
Previously worked in residential disaster relief doing estimating
Previously worked in residential disaster relief doing estimating
Posted on 3/9/24 at 2:46 pm to Tigertracks23
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a company that can do a material take-off for cost estimates to build in Baton Rouge/Central area.
All of the material/lumber suppliers will estimate the take off for you. This will be “close enough” and final adjustments will be made by your subs anyway.
Just be careful when comparing one supplier to another. They will manipulate individual quantities to make their “overall” price competitive.
I used Stines in Walker (located in Walker). But Holmes, 84 Lumber, and Picou will also do it and are decent suppliers.
ETA: This is probably the most important relationship you’ll have through this process. So spend time talking to them and make this selection carefully. You’ll be setup as a contractor within their system, and they can make recommendations on subs and other suppliers. I’d also suggest to talk to your framing carpenter to get their opinion on who you will ultimately use. The framer/supplier relationship and timely delivery is critical to keeping the progressing.
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:27 pm to Tigertracks23
This is pretty simple math to be honest. I did all of ours on a spreadsheet and came out fine. I do know most architect software has this built into the software. You could probably pay the designer $100 for this.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:37 pm to Tigertracks23
Cheaper isn't always better. You don't know what your doing, It'll backfire fast. I can do all your take off but I require half up front, and I charge by the sq foot covered
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:39 pm to welder69
following hurricane Harvey, my old house wound up in the bay. I worked for three months talking to general contractors, lousy experience, so I decided to do it my self.
Your first step should be to hire a design person to develop about 13-15 sheets of drawings for slab, framing, plumbing, electrical, kitchen etc.
With that lumber companies will do a material take off for framing, ext sheathing, roofing , etc. The priced material take off is what you will use for ordering materials to the site.
You also want to hire an engineer to assure that structure is sound and meets all windstorm requirement. Engineer cost is more than offset by cheaper insurance
From there you hire 7-8 sub contractors to build out fdn, framing, plumbing, kitchen, insulation wall board etc. Painting takes more $ than anticipated.
General contractors want money up front. Not acceptable.......You lose control. Work the issue with a subcontract closing/mobilization fee, weekly progress payments and bulk materials paid by owner
Kitchen takes a lot of detail. Pay Home Depot/Lowes the hundred dollar fee to develop the kitchen lay out per your requirements. That lay out can be shopped to custom cambinent suppliers.
The general contractor fee will add about 25 % cost overall, but your biggest risk is losing control of your project.
charge by the sq ft ??? you will be very confused by definition of sq ft. !! car port, garage, porch, a/c covered, over hang, finished, unfinished.
Insurance companies treat vinyl siding as trash, its really is.
Your first step should be to hire a design person to develop about 13-15 sheets of drawings for slab, framing, plumbing, electrical, kitchen etc.
With that lumber companies will do a material take off for framing, ext sheathing, roofing , etc. The priced material take off is what you will use for ordering materials to the site.
You also want to hire an engineer to assure that structure is sound and meets all windstorm requirement. Engineer cost is more than offset by cheaper insurance
From there you hire 7-8 sub contractors to build out fdn, framing, plumbing, kitchen, insulation wall board etc. Painting takes more $ than anticipated.
General contractors want money up front. Not acceptable.......You lose control. Work the issue with a subcontract closing/mobilization fee, weekly progress payments and bulk materials paid by owner
Kitchen takes a lot of detail. Pay Home Depot/Lowes the hundred dollar fee to develop the kitchen lay out per your requirements. That lay out can be shopped to custom cambinent suppliers.
The general contractor fee will add about 25 % cost overall, but your biggest risk is losing control of your project.
charge by the sq ft ??? you will be very confused by definition of sq ft. !! car port, garage, porch, a/c covered, over hang, finished, unfinished.
Insurance companies treat vinyl siding as trash, its really is.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:59 pm to LSUtigerME
Thank you for the info. This would be my 3rd home. I just wasnt sure who to go to since Ed Price was bought out. Its been 10years so i am curious to see the dollar per squarefoot on a 2000 sq ft cost to build these days. The housing market is insane and I would prefer to take my time, build and get what I want.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:09 pm to LSURoss
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<2000 sqft $6500 >2000 sqft $8500 +$100 sqft over 3000
I’ll do it for $100 less than this guy.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:14 pm to Tigertracks23
I'm going through a total home renovation and I wish had the patience to do it myself. But frick that.
My wife had changed her mind 5 times already where she wants to put the new induction stove at in the kitchen. Changed her mind back and forth about whether or not to replace all drywall (now we are) and changed her mind on cabinets, exterior paint and trim color, etc.
I'll pay whatever it takes for her to deal with a contractor about it than deal with me about it. We're two weeks away from all of our shite being loaded up into an 8x40 shipping container and living out of our 5th wheel and I still don't know exactly what the frick is going on.
My wife had changed her mind 5 times already where she wants to put the new induction stove at in the kitchen. Changed her mind back and forth about whether or not to replace all drywall (now we are) and changed her mind on cabinets, exterior paint and trim color, etc.
I'll pay whatever it takes for her to deal with a contractor about it than deal with me about it. We're two weeks away from all of our shite being loaded up into an 8x40 shipping container and living out of our 5th wheel and I still don't know exactly what the frick is going on.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:21 pm to Tigertracks23
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Hi IM thinking about building my home without a GC and am wanting to take my plans to a company that can do a material take-off for cost estimates to build in Baton Rouge/Central area.
If you can’t do that, don’t self contract.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:31 pm to Tigertracks23
A lumber yard should be able to take your build and framing plan and do that for you. At that point it will be plus/minus 20% as the amount of lumber actually used is not only fluid, but depends entirely on how much the framer uses/wastes, and that will vary framer to framer.
You are better served in utilizing that takeoff to establish the 8-10 highest line items (it will be studs, plywood, and trusses if the plan specs them) and negotiating with a few places for pricing on those items. If you have the ability to do it, they love getting paid early (10 days) and often and it will effect pricing.
Being your own GC is a pain in the arse unless you know the framer well and or have a "real" GC friend consulting. I did this myself 15 years ago with the understanding I would be starting my own company as a builder/designer. It worked out well in the end, but the amount of mistakes I made (and still make after 30 plus builds) was ridiculous.
And it can not be stressed enough that you need to finalize a single plan with your engineer AND architect before construction. Lock in and get comfortable with every single trade, esp Elec, Plumbing, and HVAC. I could go on for another 25 paragraphs with what ifs. Bottom line, expect chaos and embrace the suck or you will be divorced before your occupancy certificate is handed over.
You are better served in utilizing that takeoff to establish the 8-10 highest line items (it will be studs, plywood, and trusses if the plan specs them) and negotiating with a few places for pricing on those items. If you have the ability to do it, they love getting paid early (10 days) and often and it will effect pricing.
Being your own GC is a pain in the arse unless you know the framer well and or have a "real" GC friend consulting. I did this myself 15 years ago with the understanding I would be starting my own company as a builder/designer. It worked out well in the end, but the amount of mistakes I made (and still make after 30 plus builds) was ridiculous.
And it can not be stressed enough that you need to finalize a single plan with your engineer AND architect before construction. Lock in and get comfortable with every single trade, esp Elec, Plumbing, and HVAC. I could go on for another 25 paragraphs with what ifs. Bottom line, expect chaos and embrace the suck or you will be divorced before your occupancy certificate is handed over.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:35 pm to Lsupimp
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Just give it to your subs, add 150k, a river of tears and a mountain of frustration and you should be in the ballpark.
Well put
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