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re: Reports of multiple fatalities at an Oregon Community College
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:05 pm to CaptainsWafer
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:05 pm to CaptainsWafer
Reports are the shooter is in custody
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:06 pm to The Pirate King
Probably 1 am, since there's a zero in front of the 1
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:07 pm to Dandy Lion
quote:
Hey dickhead,
I'm not singling you out, just the thread in general.
I just fail to see how this is the thread for most of this discussion.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:07 pm to The Pirate King
quote:
Look at the time/date, is that 1:19 am or pm?
I don't read 4chan much
Look ath the webcache.. shows yesterdays date.. Don't know why there is a discrepancy or if this is even real.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:09 pm to slackster
I agree, it´s the ´pile on´ mentality, along with the anonymity, which fuels the escalation, isn´t it?
However, this is a horrible tragedy, and thank God it´s over.
However, this is a horrible tragedy, and thank God it´s over.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:09 pm to PSU2LSU
quote:
The Associated Press ?@AP 9m9 minutes ago
BREAKING: Oregon State Police Lt. Bill Fugate tells KATU-TV at least 7 dead, 20 hurt in college shooting.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:09 pm to csorre1
quote:
I'm on your side but if England had the same population as the US that would still only be 246.77 per year.
That would mean that per capita the us has 36.47 times more gun related deaths than England.
To get a real number you would need to figure out how many gun deaths are crime related vs completely innocent people like what happened today. The number would drop drastically.
I am just saying that simply posting 41 vs 9000 is disingenuous.
It also can't be calculated how much less crime is committed or lives are saved out of fear by a criminal that he may break into an armed house or something.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:09 pm to Austin Cajun
quote:
It's also in an area full of hardcore leftwing anti gun idiots. Can't wait to see the backlash.
No it isn't. Douglas County is very red. All of Oregon is not Portland.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:10 pm to northshorebamaman
This thread went to shite much faster than I expected.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:11 pm to stout
quote:OK
I like how people only tell part of the story.
53 million people vs 319 million people.
Of course 41 vs 9000 looks crazy out until it's put into more context.
The UK has 1/6 of the US's population.
Then 1/6th of 9,000 casualties would be 1,500 deaths.
They had 41 deaths which is less than 3% of what they would have had if their firearm homicide rate were like the US's (adjusted for population).
1,500 versus 41.
We (the US) have shown that societally we simply cannot regulate ourselves with regard to universal firearm ownership.
Risk:Reward? The cost of preserving the universal right to possess firearms now outweighs any "good" from ownership by law-abiding citizenry.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:12 pm to stout
quote:
To get a real number you would need to figure out how many gun deaths are crime related vs completely innocent people like what happened today. The number would drop drastically.
I am just saying that simply posting 41 vs 9000 is disingenuous.
It also can't be calculated how much less crime is committed or lives are saved out of fear by a criminal that he may break into an armed house or something.
Fair points. It has also been reported that the UK has a higher violent crime rate than the US. Gun statistics don't tell the whole story and are often BS. Cherry picking which statistics are shown and which are not can paint any picture you want.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:14 pm to soccerfüt
w/o demographic breakdowns, I see little use in population statistics.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:14 pm to soccerfüt
quote:
We (the US) have shown that societally we simply cannot regulate ourselves with regard to universal firearm ownership.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:15 pm to Cap Crunch
quote:If true - they should take him to the woods, nail his dick to a tree with rusty nails, and leave him there to figure it out.
Reports are the shooter is in custody
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:16 pm to soccerfüt
quote:Get out of here with your reasonable logic and facts.
The UK has 1/6 of the US's population.
Then 1/6th of 9,000 casualties would be 1,500 deaths.
They had 41 deaths which is less than 3% of what they should have had when adjusted for population.
We (the US) have shown that societally we simply cannot regulate ourselves with regard to universal firearm ownership.
Risk:Reward? The cost of preserving the universal right to possess firearms now outweighs any "good" from ownership by law-abiding citizenry.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:16 pm to csorre1
Executions need to go back to being swift, public, and gruesome
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:16 pm to bapple
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While still tragic, most of the firearms related deaths in this country come from criminals killing other criminals.
I would be willing to bet that your likelihood of being shot as a criminal is comparatively high regardless of what country you live in.
It would be nice for the segment of the population that feels strongly about keeping firearms readily available to be the ones that really push for an alternative to gun control. (Such as, hey, lets make mental health support and checks widely available.) But instead the gun culture lovers in this country only choose to act paranoid about government knocking down their doors to take their firearms. Lazy and selfish citizenry.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:16 pm to Tigercat
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:16 pm to csorre1
quote:
It has also been reported that the UK has a higher violent crime rate than the US
It has been shown that rape also increased drastically in countries that increased their gun laws.
quote:
The United States has an assault rate of 250.9 per 100,000 in 2010 -- a decrease from 294.9 per 100,000 in 2003.
The United Nations has the United Kingdom divided into three states, England and Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Scotland has an assault rate of 1449.7 per 100,000 in 2010. This is up from 1,232 per 100,000 in 2003. England and Wales had a rate of 644.4 in 2010 which was down from 862.8 per 100,000. Northern Ireland had a rate of 80.6 which is up from 65.5 in 2003. Only Northern Ireland has a lower rate than the United States. So while the murder rate of England and Scotland is higher than the United States they have an assault rate 3 to 6 times higher than the rate of the United States.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:17 pm to stout
quote:
To get a real number you would need to figure out how many gun deaths are crime related vs completely innocent people like what happened today. The number would drop drastically.
I am just saying that simply posting 41 vs 9000 is disingenuous.
It also can't be calculated how much less crime is committed or lives are saved out of fear by a criminal that he may break into an armed house or something.
I get what you are saying but it's a numbers game. I know, as well as anyone with intelligence that the more guns you take away the more gun related crimes drop. I understand that my chances of a shark eating me drops if I stay my arse out the ocean. Putting more guns in people's hands will only increase the number of dead people, grieving families, and senseless murders. Taking away guns lowers that number. That's a fact.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 2:21 pm
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