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re: “Renters don’t pay property taxes”

Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
55436 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Renters are indirectly impacted by property tax


Yes. Indirectly. Except in a triple net commercial lease where the property tax bill is paid by the tenant, lessees don't see the tax bill and are clueless as to how a vote to increase the landlord's property taxes might impact them indirectly.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16795 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:27 pm to
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You clearly rent, and have no business voting to increase a tax burden on someone who is competent enough to have good credit and own a house.

You think renters are all 28 year olds that spend $1k a month on Door Dash? Try at least 1/2 of divorced parents of any age that rent for at least a few years, while trying to save under the burden of hundreds-thousands of dollars a month in child support/alimony. I'm a renter for probably another year in my late 40s, but I've also paid more attention to local tax/regulation issues than 80% of my peers who are homeowners, and 99% more than any of their wives (the realtors are the only women that seem to pay attention to any of this.) Maybe my rent would be $300 cheaper if the homeowners hadn't vote for a billion dollar stadium, hundreds of millions for STEM and robotics centers used by fewer than 500 kids in the entire district, etc.

My county, and probably most major metro areas with good school districts in Texas is the Asians. If the words "ISD" (independent school district) are in a bond issue or tax of any sort, they vote for it, lock stock and barrel. It's so bad that the state had to pass a law that stated that any ballot measure that kicked off in 2025:
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The bill mandates that any ballot measure seeking voter approval for the imposition or increase of a tax must explicitly state the amount or maximum rate of the tax and include the phrase "THIS IS A TAX INCREASE" in capitalized, same-sized letters as the rest of the proposition.

Note, the verbiage is not a "tax RATE increase," but merely tax increase. Those that put these things on the ballot learned that dumbshits (homeowners, mostly) that see "your tax rate will not increase" and overwhelmingly vote for this shite. However, the assessment district is going to hammer you for 8-10% increases a year (common in my county, regardless of oil crashes, unemployment in the area, etc.) Texas per capita has twice as much debt as Florida, most of it linked to school districts in crazy amounts of bond debt, with Florida experiencing even higher growth. It's like refinancing a car every year for 2 decades, having been given the excuse that your payment won't go up (I know it doesn't match the use case exactly, but it's an easy explanation to a layman.)

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79044 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:29 pm to
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Renters should not be allowed to vote for property tax increases. Period.



People who don't file a W2 shouldn't be allowed to vote.on payroll tax!!

People not on Medicare shouldn't get to vote on Medicare issues!!

People without a womb shouldn't have votes on womb issues!!

This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 4:29 pm
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3529 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:30 pm to
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People who don't file a W2 shouldn't be allowed to vote.on payroll tax!!

People not on Medicare shouldn't get to vote on Medicare issues!!

People without a womb shouldn't have votes on womb issues!!


People who 'own' homes, but have a mortgage shouldn't be able to vote on property tax. The bank should.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79044 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:33 pm to
If you don't have a kid in school you can't vote on taxes to fund schools.

If you aren't on WIC you shouldn't get a say on WIC coverage!!
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 4:35 pm
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7455 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:36 pm to
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You sound like the idiot socialists with the same flawed thinking behind rent freezes in places like NYC and their failed understanding of free and fair markets.



Thats a massive leap to make, and completely inaccurate as to my way of thinking.

Based on your history of clown posts though, it is not surprising you would make such a post.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15804 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:40 pm to
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many people feel renters should be excluded from voting on taxes and bills that affect actual owners


I’m a renter bc I haven’t settled down yet and it’s cheaper for my lifestyle. As someone who pays more taxes than 90% of the population, my vote doesn’t matter?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
183534 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:41 pm to
You guys think you are clever but are making some really bad arguments


Just on the school one, an argument can easily be made why even people without kids should be willing to pay taxes to support schools and have a say on school districts.

As a society, we all understand that having a functioning school system benefits everyone. Schools create an educated workforce. Good schools maintain property values and make areas more attractive.

Outside of hyperbole such as yours, no one has really presented why tenants, especially the millions on housing vouchers, should be able to increase property taxes for a district they might not even live in a month from now.


Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
183534 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:42 pm to
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Based on your history of clown posts though, it is not surprising you would make such a post.



I just remembered you are an idiot lib so it makes sense you side with the socialists in NYC

You want to tax billionaires more too
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
183534 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:45 pm to
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As someone who pays more taxes than 90% of the population, my vote doesn’t matter?



What do those taxes have to do with property taxes?


Also, you answered your own question:

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I haven’t settled down yet and it’s cheaper for my lifestyle


You aren't settled and will seek out cheaper rent so why should you be allowed to vote on increases when you are so easily transient?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79044 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:47 pm to
If you don't own a business you shouldn't vote on business taxes.

If you don't have kids you shouldn't vote on dependent exceptions.

If you don't own an EV you shouldn't vote on EV exceptions and rebates.

The property tax stance is the the most ignorant self absorbed stance you can have.

If you didn't serve you can't have an opinion on wars.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 4:50 pm
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
79 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:49 pm to
A two year lease sounds like the landlords fault. They traded security of a specific rate for two years for the risk of fluctuation after that two years is up.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
6201 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:50 pm to
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$150,000


Thats just one value. The person who pays $200/month on a $1000/month apt & subsidized by tax payers the remaining $800 is not paying taxes. And there are millions of these.

I have rental property, it's about market value in that particular location, & I can't necessarily increase it due to a tax increase. My taxes have tripled within the past 10 years & rent increased only 10%-15%.

If you said some renters pay taxes with their rent, I might agree with you, but all renters, most renters do not.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79044 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:51 pm to
Any landlord worth a frick is passing on the costs to the renter.

Any landlord that thinks it will break them will let the renter know.

Any landlord signing a 2 year lease is doing it for their own benefit and not the renter...or they are a lazy idiot.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15804 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:51 pm to
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You aren't settled and will seek out cheaper rent so why should you be allowed to vote on increases when you are so easily transient?


It’s a lot harder to move than you think for renters past college age that basically only own a shirt on their back.

I’ve never bought because I haven’t lived anywhere more than a few years for my job.

Doesn’t mean while I’m living in an area I shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

Again, I pay more than 90% of people in taxes and could buy a home in cash right now. Doesn’t make sense to buy a place to not live in.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10836 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:52 pm to
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If you don't have a kid in school you can't vote on taxes to fund schools.

If you aren't on WIC you shouldn't get a say on WIC coverage!!


You are using some awful equivalencies in your responses.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79044 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:52 pm to
The initial premise is fricking awful.

The equivalents are pointing out how ignorant the initial stance is.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 4:54 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
183534 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
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If you don't own a business you shouldn't vote on business taxes.


That's usually handled at a legislative level anyway.

quote:

If you don't own an EV you shouldn't vote on EV exceptions and rebates.


Do those EVs have their own highways or something? Those EVs use public roads the same as all vehicles.

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The property tax stance is the the most ignorant self absorbed stance you can have.


Luckily for you and all of the other renters in this thread, we live in a representative society so you can keep voting for increases and moving to a new district when rental rates are no longer affordable, or landlords abandon said area.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55074 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:54 pm to
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You want to tax billionaires more too


Well yeah, they can afford it
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79044 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 4:56 pm to
Stout is just a few hundred dozen inheritances away from being a billionaire. He needs to protect his corporate welfare overlords so they will hire him next time.
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