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re: Remembering Those Who Made the ultimate sacrifice

Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:05 pm to
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No one has fought for our freedom or country since 1941


True, but many young Americans are just as dead through no fault of their own. It’s not a political holiday. I don’t weigh their deaths differently because of the war they died in.

Love this country, hug your kids, and don’t forget those that can’t be here.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 7:08 pm
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
907 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:11 pm to
I wasn't trying to make anyone's sacrafice in vain. Just pisses me off that these men died for basically nothing.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3211 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:37 pm to
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I wasn't trying to make anyone's sacrafice in vain.


Apologies if I made it sound like that’s what you were saying.

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Just pisses me off that these men died for basically nothing.

I’m with you on that.
Posted by WyattDonnelly
Member since Feb 2024
207 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:17 pm to
You’re a brainwashed dolt. Turn off CNN AND MSNBC.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:44 pm to
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don’t forget those that can’t be here.


that at Randolph? were you at the reunion in March?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:53 pm to
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You’re a brainwashed dolt. Turn off CNN AND MSNBC.


CNN and MSNBC frickin' loooooove their corporate wars and all the gazillions they make from them man. They want people like me to shut the frick up.

If I were "brainwashed" by the MSM, then just like you, I would be jacking off to every bullshite corporate war we've had since George W.

Are you fricking dumb enough to believe that the United States Government fights these wars because they're in the best interest of the American people? I think you are.

CNN and MSNBC agrees with you. So does FOX.

This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 12:12 am
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:52 am to
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Yes and no... was more about not letting (wanting) China or Russia to get a foothold in the country


Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist first. He had to use and “be friends” with China and the Soviet to get his goal. Look at Vietnam now, they hate China and they are slowly moving away from purchasing defense supplies from Russia.

All of the fear of spread of communist was a big miscalculation on the side of the US.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:01 am to
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One of the more ironic things is they have a much better relationship with the US than with China. Not that that’s unique because most of China’s neighbors dislike and don’t trust them but still


If you ever travel to Vietnam(like I am right now), you will see a big pro sentiment towards the US and you can see the influences America organically has had an impact on Vietnam. English is a desired language to learn, American products is perceived to be the best, western pop culture is slowly adopted by the young generations(I saw young people rap in Vietnamese and breakdancing in the street). Mandarin, China, Chinese, or Chinese made are not in the same class according to locals. Imagine where VN would be with losing 20 years with war against the US and how many more years after the war rebuilding.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 7:04 am
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:22 am to
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3226 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:59 am to


My Pop’s CO in Nam. Pop was his platoon sgt.

After Pop got hurt and was healing in Walter Reed hospital he found out his CO “Blue”had been killed.
With a month left in country they had moved Blue into the mess hall to protect him and help ensure he got back home to his wife and kids. With two weeks to go a call came in that a Special Forces unit nearby was in a firefight and had taken casualties. With most of Pop’s unit already out on a mission there was nobody left to help out, so Blue, against numerous orders to stay put, hopped on a Medvac chopper to go help the wounded SF members. As they circled the area where the call came in they spotted a severely wounded Green Beret on the ground. Blue ordered the chopper to set down and he would get the wounded to the bird. As the Huey set down Blue charged off to aid the wounded Beret.
He never made it. An NVA sniper was lying in wait. He and his group had ambushed the SF unit and had killed the radioman after making the call for Medvac, whereupon they lay in wait of the expected response. Blue never knew what hit him as he took a round to the chest just steps after hitting the ground to help his fellow soldier.
Hence the John 15:13 reference



Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
53442 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:22 am to
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RIP Rocky Versace, MIA then KIA in captivity. Vietnam War.

Medal of Honor Recipient
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3226 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:35 am to
Msgt Anthony RC Tony Yost


Officially.. Anthony Yost KIA

Unofficially… From a VERY close source Tony had responded to a call that. a Ranger segment was involved in a heavy firefight with insurgements holed up in a building in Mosul. Knowing things weren’t adding up as to how hard the building was being defended Msgt Yost headed out with another SF member and several Iraqi soldiers to aid in the situation. After engaging gunfire with insurgements Tony and the other SF soldier entered the building, where they started clearing rooms.
From what I was told Tony entered a room whereupon he engaged two insurgents possibly killing both before wounding a third as he exited the room through a hidden floor tunnel. Almost immediately afterwards the building blew up, killing Tony and others inside.
From the source who told me this , the insurgement Tony wounded was none other than the head of Isis in Iraq, Al Zarkawi. The injury to Zarkawi evidently kept his future movements to a minimum, thus helping Delta to later track him down and call in an airstrike where he was eventually killed.

“On November 20, 2005, some news sources reported that Zarqawi may have been killed in a coalition assault on a house in Mosul; five of those in the house were killed in the assault while the other three died through using 'suicide belts' of explosives. United States and British soldiers searched the remains,[168] with U.S. forces using DNA samples to identify the dead.[169] However, none of those remains belonged to him.

R.I.P. “Big Chief”
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
72724 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:38 am to
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Actually it could’ve been avoided if Woodrow Wilson listen to Ho Chi Minh’s plead for not wanting to be colonized by the French and Vietnam independence.
The world is a much shittier place because of Woodrow Wilson.
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
10213 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:41 am to
RIP to the fallen.

And also RIP to those that made it home and then took their own lives. I’d have never believed you if you had told me more guys I served with would commit suicide than were killed in battle, I’d have never believed you.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135751 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:42 am to
When people use the term hero, this is the type of person who comes to mind. Sad that lives have to have been lost, but the rest of us should have undying gratitude for those who did.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8572 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:56 am to
From my hometown,..

Sergeant Ridgeway, right gunner, was killed when U.S. Army Air Corps B-29-1-MO Superfortress #42-65202 collided with B-29 #42-24507 near Haliday Island, East India while on a training mission, over the Bay of Bengal, south of Calcutta (Kolkata).

Eight other crew members perished. The crew of the other B-29 survived. MACR 13445.








William G. Thompson

He had enlisted in the United States Army. Served during World War II. Thompson had the rank of Staff Sergeant. Service number assignment was 38297251. Attached to 84th Infantry Division, 334th Infantry Regiment.

S/Sgt William G Thompson enlisted on 17 November 1942 in Little Rock, Arkansas.

On 19 December 1944 S/Sgt Thompson was performing duties of the platoon sergeant in addition to his other duties ... On the day of his death he was a squad leader of the Third squad of the Anti-Tank Platoon of First Battalion Headquarters Company.

The mission of his platoon was to provide anti-tank protection for his battalion, which had just taken the town of Wurm, Germany ... The enemy barrage became increasingly severe, and S/Sgt Thompson ordered the men in his crew to take cover.

However, realizing the importance of anti-tank protection in the likely event of an enemy counter attack, he remained in an exposed position to complete the task of placing one gun in action ... By so doing, he lost his life when an enemy artillery shell exploded against the house wall above him ... His self-sacrifice has been a source of inspiration to the men of his company.
William G Thompson is buried or memorialized at Plot A Row 7 Grave 27, Netherlands American Cemetery, Margraten, Netherlands. This is an American Battle Monuments Commission location.


Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
10852 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:08 am to
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Is it still "the ultimate sacrifice" though if you didn't die for your country, but instead died for the likes of Halliburton, GE, Northrop Grumman and every other publicly traded defense contractor in America?

We really haven't been involved in a righteous war in many decades, but it doesn't take away from the few who were brave enough to serve, even if they didn't know what exactly they were fighting for.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3211 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:42 pm to
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that at Randolph? were you at the reunion in March?


No to both. Never been to Randolph. Went to UPT at Columbus.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5528 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:49 pm to
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