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Reading a story at theguardian.com and they are "British-izing" American quotes

Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:27 pm
Random Guardian story about Dollar General


I've always found it odd the way British people turn companies, stores, sports teams, etc., into a plural.

Example: "Manchester United have a good team this year"

Below, The Guardian, which is a British publication, is turning the quotes of people from Kansas into their weird pluralization:

quote:

“Dollar General are a force. It’s hard to stop a train,” said Mike Alfers, Haven’s then mayor who backed the move. “Obviously there’s been collateral damage. We didn’t expect it. I’m torn but, net-net, I still think it was a good move to bring them in.”


quote:

“Dollar General have buying power. There’s not a lot of competition at the wholesale level so it’s rather difficult and the smaller you are, you pay a higher price for goods whether it’s in delivery costs or volume buying or any number of things,” he said.


This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:31 pm to
My great great great great great grandfather didn't mow down lobsterbacks at Yorktown for this bullshite.
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:33 pm to
What a bunch of fricking morons for thinking they know the right way to speak English
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23548 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:41 pm to
Pfft. At the rate they’re going, the British will be reading their newspapers from right to left before long. They need to get their own shite together, and not worry about us butchering the Queen's English.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:44 pm to
I've never noticed it in direct quotes before

FWIW many news orgs alter "direct" quotes. Gore Vidal claimed he refused to give the NY Times an interview b/c they wouldn't sign a contract agreeing they wouldn't alter his remarks when "quoting" him.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:49 pm to
The direct quotes is my issue. While it's weird that they convert singular words to plural, that's their business. Changing direct quotes is not their business. That's shitty journalism.

That tells me the writer just wrote down some rough notes and the re-created the quotes from memory, unknowingly converting them to the British version.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

I've always found it odd the way British people turn companies, stores, sports teams, etc., into a plural.

Example: "Manchester United have a good team this year"
I hate that.
Posted by leftovergumbo
Member since May 2018
579 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I've never noticed it in direct quotes before



It's no different than when sports journalists fix the grammar in quotes from Latin American players. The point isn't to make someone look stupid.
If the guardian didn't fix it, their readers would only be able to focus on how dumb the Americans sound.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
14971 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I've always found it odd the way British people turn companies, stores, sports teams, etc., into a plural.

We do just the opposite: turn plurals into singulars. "The media is liberal."
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:19 pm to
Obviously we both do different things. I just don't think direct quotes should be changed.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159004 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

It's no different than when sports journalists fix the grammar in quotes from Latin American players. The point isn't to make someone look stupid.
PC been berry berry good to me
quote:

If the guardian didn't fix it, their readers would only be able to focus on how dumb the Americans sound.
Making them "Sound English"? Interested class and cultural biases here.

Quotes should not be altered. Perhaps you can't do a Petroleum Nasby and write in dialect, but you can print the word that was used.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Example: "Manchester United have a good team this year"
Even the American commentators did this during the World Cup. Irked me a bit. It's pretentious.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:28 pm to
I don't have as much of an issue, if someone says "yeah" and they write "yes" but changing "has" to "have" because it suits your style, is just wrong.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:30 pm to
American soccer writers do it when writing about American soccer teams in American publications. It's fricking ridiculous.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19509 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:33 pm to
The English are ruining a beautiful language
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