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Re: Thread on California City Banning New Gas Stations
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:43 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:43 am
Should states like Louisiana and Texas, which rely on oil and gas, place a fee on the purchase of new electric vehicles? Perhaps 10-15% of the purchase price? California can have all the electric cars they want, but they aren’t needed here. I’m sure something like this would pass fairly easily, as a protective measure, and would have the double-benefit of offsetting potential future O&G revenue decreases and increasing revenue for the state.
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:44 am to SportsGuyNOLA
I don’t want the government excessively taxing almost anything.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:44 am to SportsGuyNOLA
It also puts an added burden on the electric grid
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:46 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Gas stations with C-stores are fricking sketchy. I wish my neighborhood would ban them.
I fill up at Wal Mart or Costco anyways.
I fill up at Wal Mart or Costco anyways.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:48 am to SportsGuyNOLA
No. Having consumer option is a primary point of free-market capitalism. Taxing people out of purchasing those options is too much of a government strong-arming it's citizens.
What would be your reaction if the government increased the tax on your gas vehicle by 10-15% in the name of "offsetting"?
What would be your reaction if the government increased the tax on your gas vehicle by 10-15% in the name of "offsetting"?
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 8:50 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:49 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Should states like Louisiana and Texas, which rely on oil and gas, place a fee on the purchase of new electric vehicles? Perhaps 10-15% of the purchase price?
no
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:50 am to pankReb
You’re choosing to buy an electric vehicle, in a state where they aren’t needed and have a detrimental effect economically. So you’re choosing to pay the fee.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:52 am to SportsGuyNOLA
why do you think the government should pick winners and losers?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:53 am to SportsGuyNOLA
No. Free market will lead to EV adoption eventually.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:53 am to member12
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Gas stations with C-stores are fricking sketchy.
I fill up at Wal Mart
Yeah, anything can be sketchy depending on the location. There are plenty of sketchy Wal-Marts.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:53 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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You’re choosing to buy an electric vehicle,
correct.
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in a state where they aren’t needed
irrelevant.
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have a detrimental effect economically.
false
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So you’re choosing to pay the fee.
Are you mental?
Look....your idea was fricking stupid. And that's ok. We all come up with fricking stupid ideas from time to time. But reacting to an example of government overreach with another form of government overreach isn't the answer.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 8:55 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:54 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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There are plenty of sketchy Wal-Marts.
Oh I don’t go inside Walmart. I just use the gas pumps.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:00 am to pankReb
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have a detrimental effect economically.
false
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So you’re choosing to pay the fee.
Are you mental?
You are wrong, and then just plain silly with these responses
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:04 am to pankReb
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No. Having consumer option is a primary point of free-market capitalism. Taxing people out of purchasing those options is too much of a government strong-arming it's citizens.
Then we should not be subsidizing any form of industry over another either
Govt will artificially lower EVs and then the price will eventually catch up to screw over Americans where the market has shifted towards EVa artificially.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 9:06 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:05 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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You are wrong, and then just plain silly with these responses
You're an idiot. Stop doubling down on being an idiot.
No one will think less of you for just backing out of the thread. I'm not the only one in this thread that has given you a very abrupt "no" to your proposal.
And to further my answer....if you were an elected official presiding over my district and proposed a tax for something like this....I would vote you the frick out of office faster than you can say "I want to tax my constituents even more."
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:05 am to Lestradamus
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Then we should not be subsidizing any form of industry over another either
Not really gonna argue against that.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:06 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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I’m sure something like this would pass fairly easily, as a protective measure
No, this is just the other side of the coin of subsidizing things rather than letting the market decide, assuming a free and fair market. If you want to offset O&G revenues, then you need to innovate and find new industries.
That said, roads are largely funded from taxes on gasoline (use taxes seem pretty fair). Obviously electric vehicles drivers don't pay those taxes, so I would be fine with a tax on electric vehicles to contribute to the construction and maintenance of roads. The problem is that we all know that's not what those funds would end up being used on.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:07 am to Lestradamus
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Then we should not be subsidizing any form of industry over another either
sounds great to me
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:09 am to ldts
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Obviously electric vehicles drivers don't pay those taxes,
Electricity is taxed. I don't mind the argument for the tax to increase because of this. That's a solid argument.
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