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re: Random thought after watching the movie Oppenheimer

Posted on 10/6/24 at 1:41 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28417 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 1:41 am to
quote:

different flavors of quarks


That is a strange way to describe it, but it does have its charm.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 1:42 am to
That older era had paradigm shifts. Just more noteworthy.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45955 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:19 am to
From the dozens of them I have deposed over the years, I would say they just opine to say whatever big pharma, oil and gas, or industry wants them to say.

Incredibly narrow minded, arrogant pricks, who are actually pretty fricking stupid, every damn one I have dealt with anyway. Easiest depos in the world, they can't believe someone would call bullshite on them.

I am surprised we can invent anything anymore

This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 2:20 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19037 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:59 am to
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Not physicists but there’s been guys like Steve Jobs, Elon, etc that have been incredibly impressive in what they have led their businesses to accomplish.


Musk has a degree in physics (though I don't think he's actively doing physics research). He's kinda the von Braun of our day.

And what SpaceX is doing in rocketry is very, very impressive.

Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5052 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 3:03 am to
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Where are all the geniuses that are making advancements?


Many were never born because 90% of European Jewry was killed in the Holocaust

The culture that created so many of these geniuses was fully destroyed.

And many of the survivors had kids that procreated with dumb WASPs so the next generation doesn’t have the same head for numbers.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
2809 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 5:23 am to
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The fact you didn't include Gross, Witten, Higgs, Penrose, and Thorne at the very least suggests you may not have much of a clue about modern physicists.

This is the correct answer. Plus, modern physicist will never be famous today, based on the fact that people are not interested in physicists and what they accomplish. Also, from 1920-1960, most of the scientists listed in the OP were either working on government projects associated with world wide events, or their work contributed to them in some manner.
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1406 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 5:41 am to
No need for them anymore….

“The science is settled…”
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1378 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 5:54 am to
This. Also, clown boy saying science is a dead end. They thought the same thing in the 1850s dipshit.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28417 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 5:55 am to
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Plus, modern physicist will never be famous today, based on the fact that people are not interested in physicists and what they accomplish


In general, I agree. That might be different if someone cracks the cold fusion or room temperature superconductor nut or something in that realm of public interest. However, even the superconductor issue would have to be explained to the majority of the public. I think more would understand the ramifications of cold fusion.

FYI I don't think either nut above can be cracked.
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:03 am to
Cooper and Hofstdater are making bug strides i here.
Posted by rs_la
Member since Mar 2023
104 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:06 am to
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The fact you didn't include Gross, Witten, Higgs, Penrose, and Thorne at the very least suggests you may not have much of a clue about modern physicists


I’m certain that someone didn’t do well with reading comprehension, as no one you named was a contemporary of the physicists portrayed in the movie - and have absolutely no relevance to OP’s observation.

In fact, that you had to show your “smarts” by rattling off some modern physicists actually plays into the notion of the original post: the Manhattan crew had some celebrity status at the height of their work…those you named have next to zero outside their domains.
Posted by bones18
Member since Nov 2005
601 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:17 am to
Sheldon Cooper
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28417 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:34 am to
quote:

I’m certain that someone didn’t do well with reading comprehension, as no one you named was a contemporary of the physicists portrayed in the movie - and have absolutely no relevance to OP’s observation.


It is far too early in the morning for that much self-ownage. Go back and read the OP. The OP's point is about the dearth of modern physicists making significant discoveries. A list of Oppenheimer contemporaries would have been useless as a retort.

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24859 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:41 am to
Blame it on stupid string theory and that the science system is now broken.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:42 am to
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Oppenheimer really just piggybacked on Einstein



Isn't that how science generally works? Someone makes a discovery and then others come after to build on what that person started.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:45 am to
Truth be told, the only reason why we know about these scientists is because of their work in military arms manufacture during the Second World War and the Cold War. If there had never been a global conflict in the 1940s, I doubt very seriously men like Oppenheimer, Teller, Bohr, and the rest would have become as well known as they did.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
17916 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:46 am to
That’s because the science is settled.
The left told me so.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8161 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:53 am to
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During that era you had the following physicists:
Robert Oppenheimer
Edward Teller
Albert Einstein
Max Planck
Werner Heisenberg
Niels Bohr
Richard Feynman
Enrico Fermi
Erwin Schrödinger


I was somewhat surprised they were all living at the same time or were teacher/student. I remember a lot of these names from P Chem II but never looked into their history until now.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30491 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 7:01 am to
Bruh you picked a dead guy and a TV celebrity. Your post should be less of "why don't we have any" and more of a humble "I don't follow modern physics at all".
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23512 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 7:04 am to
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Heisenberg


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