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re: Raleigh, NC police department released body cam video of the shooting from a few days ago

Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:55 am to
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40380 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:55 am to
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so he robbed a Little Caesar's?


Falae narrative.

There's no way Little Caesar's classifies as "pizza".
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:56 am to
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Just curious for our CC friends here as to the proper procedures the police take to determine that info.


CC permit has nothing to do with this.

The question is was he holding the gun, touching the gun or even attempting to pull the gun.

I did not see him pull the gun out far enough to act like he was going to point the gun.

This does not look like a "good shooting" to me.

YES, I do have professional training and know what I am talking about.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35191 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:58 am to
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Is it illegal to have a gun now?
No but theft, fleeing a scene and resisting arrest are all illegal.

Hey quick question- What exactly do you think his intentions were with that gun?

Cops did the right thing
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:58 am to
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Isn't it considered an armed robbery if you have a gun on you when stealing something? Whether or not if you brandish said gun?
Yes.

It is not a reason to shoot someone.
Posted by Big Bill
Down da Bayou
Member since Sep 2015
1692 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:58 am to
1 less thief in world. Nothing further.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:01 am to
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No but theft, fleeing a scene and resisting arrest are all illegal.
Yes.
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What exactly do you think his intentions were with that gun?

Can't tell.

He did not pull and aim it at officer which would be required to make it o.k. for officer to shoot him.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
9347 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:02 am to
That bitch in the second video. I don’t have the words without getting banned.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:02 am to
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1 less thief in world. Nothing further.
I'm totally in on this BUT I'm stating law, not my personal likes.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67002 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:06 am to
Have you ever had someone point a gun at you? Or even have a job that's notorious for being shot at while on duty?

While in everyday situations most everyone else encounters, yes, it may not "look like a 'good' shooting".
However, way too many times cops are quickly shot at, without provocation, so you need to understand the situation cops are in.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22301 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:08 am to
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Is it illegal to have a gun now?


Yes, when running from police.....
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24484 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:12 am to
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He did not pull and aim it at officer which would be required to make it o.k. for officer to shoot him.


Wasn’t the gun in his hand when he was shot? There’s absolutely no way you can run with a gun in your waist band of your pants without being in a holster.

Eta: yes the highlight slo Mo shows the gun when it is in his hand by his waist, but his shirt is down. It looks to me like he dropped the pizza and grabbed the gun to run. Again, I don’t know if he was trying to shoot anyone but more likely he was holding the gun or else it would fall out of his pants when running. Therefore, holding a gun and running from the police is grounds to be shot.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 7:16 am
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:24 am to
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did not see him pull the gun out far enough to act like he was going to point the gun.

This does not look like a "good shooting" to me.

YES, I do have professional training and know what I am talking about.


quote:

He did not pull and aim it at officer which would be required to make it o.k. for officer to shoot him.


This is completely untrue.

There is no requirement that the gun has to be aimed at the cop.

You are just making shite up.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30751 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:44 am to
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The question is was he holding the gun, touching the gun or even attempting to pull the gun.

I did not see him pull the gun out far enough to act like he was going to point the gun.

This does not look like a "good shooting" to me.

YES, I do have professional training and know what I am talking about.


Hey dumbass. How about you actually click on the first link and actually watch the shooting happen? They literally pause and circle what you should be looking at so you don't make any stupid assumptions like you are doing.


The dipshit was running away from the cops with a gun in his hands. He runs around some bushes and turns the corner and there's another cop waiting for him, which looks like it surprises both the dipshit and the cop when they confront each other.
Since you're a professional, you tell me what a cop should do in that split second he sees a guy running from his other cop buddies, WITH A GUN IN HIS HANDS, straight at him? You want him to wait and see if the dipshit is going to point it at him before shooting?
Someone should have taught this dipshit how to interact with police officers. They should be taught what not to do if you want to live when interacting with police officers.
What this idiot did pretty much guaranteed he'd get shot. It was his choice when he decided to walk around town with a gun, and it was his choice when he decided to rob a pizza joint, and it was his choice to run from the police, and it was his choice to put the gun in his hands. He made the choice real easy for the police officers.
Posted by CHAZILLA
Broussard
Member since Sep 2007
617 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:51 am to
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CC permit has nothing to do with this. 

The question is was he holding the gun, touching the gun or even attempting to pull the gun. 

I did not see him pull the gun out far enough to act like he was going to point the gun. 

This does not look like a "good shooting" to me. 

YES, I do have professional training and know what I am talking about.


I'd love to compare expertise and training. It's a Good shoot all day long. If you have so much "training" in this field, then know better than the Monday morning quarterback a split second decision.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:57 am to
I would like to know what *professional training* he has in lethal force.

Because his statements are just completely wrong.

Or better yet....show me one court ruling that says police have to wait for the gun to be aimed at them before using lethal force.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 8:02 am
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:04 am to
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BUT I'm stating law,


What law are you citing?
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:08 am to
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He did not pull and aim it at officer which would be required to make it o.k. for officer to shoot him.


Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60269 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:08 am to
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Is it illegal to have a gun now?


It's illegal to use it in the commission of a crime and/or against officers attempting to lawfully arrest you.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32611 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:16 am to
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Did they know he didn't have a license before shooting?


Just curious for our CC friends here as to the proper procedures the police take to determine that info.




1-That isnt cc my friend.. if you can see it
2- dont run from officers
3- drop the gun when they tell you to over n over
4- license or not, u cant be running around with gun in your hand

Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:22 am to
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License, we don’t need no stinking license.


You are right. Let's just hand them out to every kid and psychopath out there.
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