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re: Racial bias: Self-driving cars may be likelier to hit black people
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:32 am to Open Dore Policy
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:32 am to Open Dore Policy
I don't understand these "moral dilemmas" self driving cars will have. Don't human drivers face the same moral driving dilemmas?
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:32 am to Lincoln Dawson
Are there a lot of people walking around naked out there?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:35 am to FlyinTiger93
quote:Not through clothes, or in all weather.
If it worked off of infrared technology, everyone is the same temperature.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:36 am to buffbraz
quote:They do, but one of the big problems is determining fault when an accident happens.
I don't understand these "moral dilemmas" self driving cars will have. Don't human drivers face the same moral driving dilemmas?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:42 am to Kujo
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:48 am to Lincoln Dawson
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All the cars are white. Makes sense.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:52 am to Korkstand
quote:the self driving cars won't pull the aggressive moves that cause human accidents...
They do, but one of the big problems is determining fault when an accident happens.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:03 am to Lincoln Dawson
Tf. Why is the system detecting race to begin with. Shouldnt it be able to detect a human being without identifying the race of the person.
This doesn't sound like a racial problem, but rather a big fricking system defect.
This doesn't sound like a racial problem, but rather a big fricking system defect.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:11 am to chalmetteowl
quote:They won't, but accidents will still happen. Like this thread is about, maybe the systems won't detect certain people or objects. Or maybe the software will fail. Or maybe a lamp post falls on the road and the car has to decide whether to crash itself and potentially kill its own occupants, or swerve into some people on the sidewalk.
the self driving cars won't pull the aggressive moves that cause human accidents...
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:11 am to chalmetteowl
There will be times when the algorithm will have to make decisions. By the time it is available to the public, the decision making will be infinitely quicker than any human brain.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:12 am to QJenk
quote:You serious?
Tf. Why is the system detecting race to begin with. Shouldnt it be able to detect a human being without identifying the race of the person.
They don't detect race. The problem is that some of the systems used don't detect darker colors as well.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:34 am to Korkstand
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They don't detect race. The problem is that some of the systems used don't detect darker colors as well.
That is my point. If the system needs to detect color in order to detect a human being, the system is defected. Back to the drawing board they go.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:38 am to Lincoln Dawson
Elon musk to professor at UGA : "Checkmate bitch"
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:47 am to Lincoln Dawson
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failure to detect dark-skinned pedestrians
I’m not a self driving car but I have this same issue at night. Dark skinned ppl shouldn’t wear dark clothing at night when walking down the street.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:51 am to Lincoln Dawson
I wish they would hit white liberals, like the dumb bitch that wrote the article.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:58 am to QJenk
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That is my point. If the system needs to detect color in order to detect a human being, the system is defected. Back to the drawing board they go.
I promise you the companies developing self-driving tech are at the drawing board all day, every day. It's just that this is a very hard problem.
No single tech will work well in every situation. Visual cameras don't work well in the dark/snow/rain. LIDAR doesn't detect darker colors well. RADAR doesn't have very high resolution. Ultrasonic sensors don't have much range. Thermal cameras have to deal with environmental issues.
It takes a combination of techs just to be sufficient, but we're probably a long way off from perfection, which probably isn't even attainable. And each tech has its own costs and technical challenges, which obviously influence the direction of things.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:00 pm to QJenk
quote:The problem isn't that it's detecting colors. It's that it's not detecting darker colors as easily. You make it sound like it's prioritizing one over the other.
If the system needs to detect color in order to detect a human being, the system is defected.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:00 pm to Korkstand
I understand that. I wasnt flaming the company at all. Just consider me a pessimist when it comes to alot of this so called new technology stuff. I don't trust it. Especially self driving cars.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:05 pm to QJenk
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Just consider me a pessimist when it comes to alot of this so called new technology stuff. I don't trust it. Especially self driving cars.
If you're like most people, including myself, you're not quite ready to trust your own car to drive itself, but you wish most of the idiots on the road with you had self driving cars.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:29 pm to Korkstand
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You serious?
They don't detect race. The problem is that some of the systems used don't detect darker colors as well.
Just like humans. Like those dumb arse people who walk down a street at night while wearing dark clothing.
Dumbass must want to be a speedbump.
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