re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.

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Part of the poor engagement is because of what corporate culture has morphed into. The prevailing model is basically the meat-grinder model. Extract as much as you can from your employees, don't reward them, give them the bare minimum, make the board happy, then kick them to the curb at the slightest sign of trouble or decreased profit. Once they're out, find some other chewed up person to fill the gap, rinse and repeat.

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Exactly. Supply outweighs demand because there has been a major stunting of advancement at the top. The lower-levels are full of qualified candidates because very few have been given the opportunity to advance.

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I can tell you never worked in a plant during a project.

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So a plant allowed you to work 12 hours a day for seven days a week, every week for 7 months?

No safety issues were brought up about lack of sleep?

Or maybe you didn't work seven days a week, maybe you worked six days. So you worked six 14 hour days every week for 7 months? At a plant?

Doing what exactly? Not physical labor, that's for sure.

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You probably don’t see those hours at the mall.

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I just left a job where I worked 55-60 hours a week, five days a week. I was on my feet the whole time I was at work.

It was a high stress job, in a fast-paced environment.

I can promise you that you weren't working any physical oriented job for 84 hours a week that long. Your body would shut down from exhaustion.

Trust me on this, I know. And if your plant required you to do so, they put you and everyone you worked with in a dangerous position.



So try again with your bullshite.

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Now it seems like neither group gives a shite. They do the absolute minimum.

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When companies sign contracts with clients, they do what's in the scope of work of that agreement. You want something outside of the job description? Pay up bitch.

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The boomers are going to live and work for decades more?

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The boomers should have been gone years/decades ago.

They're still working, clogging up the upper management positions and denying advancement for Gen X for years/decades.

So Gen X has filled the middle/upper-middle management and denied that opportunity to the Xennials and older Millennials, who are still pretty much entry level or lower-middle management.

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So a plant allowed you to work 12 hours a day for seven days a week, every week for 7 months?

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Why is this difficult to digest? Deployed, we worked 12 on/12 off as a bare minimum.

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So doing a bare minimum at work is going to help this? Have some self pride people. You asked for a job. Do a good one. There is no excuse for laziness. None.

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Who says they aren't doing a good job or doing the work they were hired for? That isn't what is happening here. Employers are wanted more from their employees than what they hired them for without any compensation. Younger generations are saying they aren't doing that. You want more work than you hired me for, then pay me. What's wrong with that mindset?

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Is this bad?

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Right?

I know this is a crazy arse concept, but why not just increase the minimum required?

We have a lot of issues within our workforce and the way our workforce is treated. Both sides have issues. We shouldn’t have this quiet quitting where people are dragging up, but we also shouldn’t have stagnant wage growth for most of the past 3 decades. People also need engaging jobs to stay productive and motivated long term, but most people don’t realize that or don’t get it at least in their jobs. There’s a Bible verse that boils down to work being good for people, and I believe it, at least in the context of meaningful work. You could pay me a ton of money, but if I was doing the same repetitive task for the next 30 years I’d lose my purpose and quiet quit too

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The boomers should have been gone years/decades ago

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Decades? Retirement age us generally 65. How many 70-77 year olds are working and blocking advancement? That has to be the exception not the rule.

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We have a lot of issues within our workforce and the way our workforce is treated. Both sides have issues. We shouldn’t have this quiet quitting where people are dragging up, but we also shouldn’t have stagnant wage growth for most of the past 3 decades. People also need engaging jobs to stay productive and motivated long term, but most people don’t realize that or don’t get it at least in their jobs. There’s a Bible verse that boils down to work being good for people, and I believe it, at least in the context of meaningful work. You could pay me a ton of money, but if I was doing the same repetitive task for the next 30 years I’d lose my purpose and quiet quit too

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Yeah, many people completely gloss over the fact that hard work needs to be rewarded not only monetarily, but also through new opportunities for growth and to prevent static fatigue. But, like I said, the corporate model is keep these reliable people where they are and feed them the minimum amount of shite they need to keep being productive so you can transfer all their work to the board's pocket.