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Quick question for Lawyers on OT, do lawyers "have to" represent a client?

Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:52 pm
For those with their JD’s in Louisiana, what are the rules for attorney’s agreeing to represent clients? In watching the COA mess I see Governor Foster’s son is their lawyer. I realize everyone has a right to proper representation, but under what circumstances can a lawyer so “no?”
I assume if there is a conflict and/or the person cannot pay (then they get court appointed lawyer), but otherwise can attorney’ refuse people based on

• Whether they feel the person is guilty or not?

• If they do not want the publicity?

In general what is the rule?
Thanks
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21842 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:55 pm to
AFAIK, unless they work for municipality or the state, they aren't required to take any cases. It's up to the attorney whether they want to be retained.

Disclaimer, not a lawyer, just married to one.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:58 pm to
nah
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:16 pm to
Save for a very few circumstances, attorneys are free to represent whom they choose.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

For those with their JD’s in Louisiana


You should probably ask those that have their Esq's
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11924 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:25 pm to
Unless you are ordered by a court to represent someone, who are under no obligation to represent a potential client.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Quick question for Lawyers on OT, do lawyers "have to" represent a client?


I knew there would come a day when watching the movie "Ted 2" wasn't a waste. The answer is No.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5695 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:32 pm to
I'm not an attorney in LA, but the rules are generally the same everywhere. If you are a private attorney, then you can take (or not take) any case you want. If you work for the State/Fed then you take the cases assigned to you unless there is a conflict or other legal grounds to reject the case.

However, once you accept a case and enter an appearance, then you are stuck with it unless a judge lets you off. So if someone comes in, professes their innocence and you take the case only later to find out he's guilty as shite when you get discovery, then you're stuck. If the client stops paying, then you (depending on the judge) are not guaranteed to be able to get off. You can always sue the client for breach of contract, but attorneys don't stay in business long when they start suing their clients.

The worst is when you have someone come in and after talking about their circumstances you figure it's a simple case. You agree to represent them for X amount. Later, once you get into the case, it becomes apparent that the case is much more complex than you initially thought and you end up having to do it for half of what it's worth (if you charge a one time, up front fee like most attorneys do where I'm from).
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

you end up having to do it for half of what it's worth (if you charge a one time, up front fee like most attorneys do where I'm from).

This seems like a bad business decision. How would it be advantageous to you, as someone who is stuck representing a client, to charge a 1 time fee? Seems like clients could and would take advantage of that.
Posted by RocketPower13
Member since Jan 2017
2563 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:08 pm to
Depends on how much they like money
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

You should probably ask those that have their Esq's




This
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15403 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

quote:
you end up having to do it for half of what it's worth (if you charge a one time, up front fee like most attorneys do where I'm from).



Who the hell does that? All the non-contingency lawyers I know take a retainer and start invoicing again once depleted.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5695 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

This seems like a bad business decision. How would it be advantageous to you, as someone who is stuck representing a client, to charge a 1 time fee? Seems like clients could and would take advantage of that.


Short answer: I'd rather get paid half up front, then nothing at the end.

Depending on the area of law you practice and where you practice it is always better to get paid up front rather than after your services are rendered. Otherwise you spend as much time chasing down people who owe you money and won't pay as you do actually being able to do your job. Most of the times you get a pretty good idea of what a case is worth based on the initial interview, especially in the criminal world. You can judge that just by the crime they're accused of. White collar crimes are expensive as shite to defend because you have to get forensic accountants and other experts. It's not often you get shafted on a case, but I'll take that chance and get paid prior to doing work, then counting on people accused of crimes or going through divorce (and splitting assets) to pay their bills on time, if at all.

Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5695 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Who the hell does that? All the non-contingency lawyers I know take a retainer and starts invoicing again once depleted.


Most attorneys where I'm at do up front fees, for the normal cases that walk in the door. If it is an exception case that is going to take a huge part of your time (like a cap. murder), then retainers with additional hourly fees will occur. When someone walks in that's been accused of selling drugs to a CI or getting caught with meth (the vast majority of criminal cases where I am), I know what it's going to cost. There all the same, just a different defendant.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:28 pm to
Another Perry Mason/matlock thread. Great way to close out a Monday.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15403 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Most attorneys where I'm at do up front fees, for the normal cases that walk in the door. If it is an exception case that is going to take a huge part of your time (like a cap. murder), then retainers with additional hourly fees will occur. When someone walks in that's been accused of selling drugs to a CI or getting caught with meth (the vast majority of criminal cases where I am), I know what it's going to cost. There all the same, just a different defendant.


Makes sense. I work in a field ancillary to attorneys, but admittedly don't work with many crim defense lawyers.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21523 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:42 pm to
Foster III was not forced to represent the COA.

Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5437 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:35 pm to
rep only who you want
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Who the hell does that?

i do

AMA

quote:

All the non-contingency lawyers I know take a retainer and start invoicing again once depleted.

if i relied primarily on billing i'd starve. i work too fast and it just doesn't work with what i'm going for right now

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