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re: Question for the all life matters crew here, sorry if redundant.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:22 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:22 pm to deeprig9
quote:
White people get killed by cops more than black people
A. There are 6 times more White people than Black people in America. So statistically it makes sense that more Whites are killed.
B. If more white people get killed by cops why aren't you upset about police brutality?
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:23 pm to agregime1
quote:
But does anyone know if during the Boston bombings we did “Dallas Strong” “Miami Strong”
More white people are killed by cops than black people, so your question here is foolish.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:32 pm to agregime1
The issue is that Boston, and only Boston at that time had received a heinous attack at that point that was conceived and planned, and it was an attack on multiple people of all races. It was not a random event in which only one person was harmed/killed. All those people were innocent and not high on fentanyl and meth and committing a crime like George Floyd did to initiate his encounter. Though everyone does agree he should not have died, literally everyone.
I saw the same question posed about cancer awareness ribbons and such. This is what makes dems and liberals look like dummies because they are essentially comparing innocent cancer victims which are all different ages, races, and religions in which thousands die from a year to the few actually innocent black people killed a year by police. Like George Floyd and his multiple arrests and drug abuse is the equivalent of people like my aunt that died from cancer. Give me a break
I saw the same question posed about cancer awareness ribbons and such. This is what makes dems and liberals look like dummies because they are essentially comparing innocent cancer victims which are all different ages, races, and religions in which thousands die from a year to the few actually innocent black people killed a year by police. Like George Floyd and his multiple arrests and drug abuse is the equivalent of people like my aunt that died from cancer. Give me a break
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:41 pm to RoyaleWithCheese
quote:
A. There are 6 times more White people than Black people in America. So statistically it makes sense that more Whites are killed.
B. If more white people get killed by cops why aren't you upset about police brutality?
A) True, but why do black people commit 9x more violence to white people than white people do to white people? Why do black people commit 45x more violent crimes against other blacks than whites do against blacks? You can use stats both ways, but at the end of the day black people are committing more violent crimes, fact. Why is that? I would love to know the of the amount of people that committed violent crimes, what % were dems and repubs.
B) Because white people do not typically play up the victim card. And it's less to do about white people to me so much as it is republicans. In large republicans are smart enough to look at each case individually, say the police were justified on one case and wrong on another, and have the decency and sense not to riot and loot over it and cause more damage than what the one idiot cop did in the first place.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:02 pm to RoyaleWithCheese
A: You don't know what "per capita per encounter" means because you are stupid.
B: Police brutality does piss me off. I don't think a radical coup to overthrow "the system" is the answer. If you want to talk about alternative answers, let's talk. But I don't want to waste my time with someone who doesn't understand per capita or per encounter. You will need to post something objective and intelligent first.
B: Police brutality does piss me off. I don't think a radical coup to overthrow "the system" is the answer. If you want to talk about alternative answers, let's talk. But I don't want to waste my time with someone who doesn't understand per capita or per encounter. You will need to post something objective and intelligent first.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:05 pm to agregime1
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all cities matter, but wasn’t Boston the main focus at that time and the reason why it was just “Boston Strong”?
To answer your whole post, it's not equivalent because all races see police brutality. It's not just the black community. More unarmed whites die than any other race yearly by cops. The whole false narrative takes away from trying to improve police relations.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:11 pm to RoyaleWithCheese
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B. If more white people get killed by cops why aren't you upset about police brutality?
For me personally, I don’t get upset, because the number of occurrences is statistically insignificant. I also don’t get mad about lightning strike deaths
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:12 pm to agregime1
Did Boston bomb itself on a regular basis and blame NYC?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:16 pm to deeprig9
All of this analytical reasoning is wasted. Everything today is emotion and BS.
In today's (June 10, 2020) edition of the BR Advocate, the Chief of Police (the former LSP officer widely known as the most political, least competent LSP officer in recent memory) is quoted as saying he worries about his five sons encountering police officers.
He says he gave his sons "the talk" about dress code (wear shirts) while driving, not playing loud music, and being respectful to cops if pulled over - but didn't mention anything about following lawful orders from the LEO (a simple little step that would eliminate 98% of the confrontations between cops and motorists). He's nothing more than a lackey for SWB, and loves to pander to her constituents.
In today's (June 10, 2020) edition of the BR Advocate, the Chief of Police (the former LSP officer widely known as the most political, least competent LSP officer in recent memory) is quoted as saying he worries about his five sons encountering police officers.
He says he gave his sons "the talk" about dress code (wear shirts) while driving, not playing loud music, and being respectful to cops if pulled over - but didn't mention anything about following lawful orders from the LEO (a simple little step that would eliminate 98% of the confrontations between cops and motorists). He's nothing more than a lackey for SWB, and loves to pander to her constituents.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:18 pm to dltigers3
Right. 19 unarmed black men were killed by cops last year, nationally. Genocide?
How many black people drowned?
How many black people died of AIDS?
How many died of opiates?
How many died of non-cop murder?
If BLM was a legit org, they'd be tackling these issues.
Instead, they are focusing on a statistically insignificant occurrence, exploiting the deaths of people, for purely political purposes.
BLM is despicable.
How many black people drowned?
How many black people died of AIDS?
How many died of opiates?
How many died of non-cop murder?
If BLM was a legit org, they'd be tackling these issues.
Instead, they are focusing on a statistically insignificant occurrence, exploiting the deaths of people, for purely political purposes.
BLM is despicable.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:24 pm to dltigers3
quote:
For me personally, I don’t get upset, because the number of occurrences is statistically insignificant. I also don’t get mad about lightning strike deaths
There's no reasoning with these lunatics. Also no appeasing them either
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:25 pm to TigerChief10
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where are they? Because all I see is anyone not marching 100% in lockstep being crucified by the entire movement. If there were actually a good amount of decent people in this movement you wouldn't have seen the type of reaction you did to Brees's benign comments.
Well first, I would ask where you watch your news, because whatever outlet that is, that's where you won't find them. Most of what passes for news is trash.
I'm one of them and absolutely willing to engage in civil discourse if you would like.
But otherwise you have to look in places where you probably wouldn't tend to look. You could start with message boards that tend to engage in discourse on these issues. But waiting on the news to illuminate civility is antithetical to why they exist in the first place.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:28 pm to agregime1
Nah.....you’re the first to think of it that way. You should make a meme
Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:28 pm to agregime1
Not really. It's more like if Boston got bombed and demanded the whole world support an anti-bombing of Boston only campaign. Paris says, "Hey Boston, we get bombed too, and more frequently. New York also. Shouldn't all bombings be protested? It's not just a Boston phenomenon." And Boston replies, "frick that, we only care about bombings in our city and that's what you should care about too."
These analogies are poor because the showing of solidarity after a tragedy is focused but not exclusionary like BLM inherently is.
FWIW, I don't say "all lives matter" because blase' groups shouldn't be offended when one group cares more about a common issue.
If I'm one of a few people that got booted from a flight because it's overbooked, I'll just catch the next one. My colleague Joe can go bananas if he wants as long as he doesn't start throwing my luggage around. But I also understand if the other exiles don't rally to his cause if he's blaming them for being kicked off while demanding he alone be let back on the plane. (That's a good analogy)
quote:Because nobody came out proclaiming that the Vegas shooting was more meaningful than all other shootings.
when after the Vegas shootings no one countered the issue with #SeattleStrong?
These analogies are poor because the showing of solidarity after a tragedy is focused but not exclusionary like BLM inherently is.
FWIW, I don't say "all lives matter" because blase' groups shouldn't be offended when one group cares more about a common issue.
If I'm one of a few people that got booted from a flight because it's overbooked, I'll just catch the next one. My colleague Joe can go bananas if he wants as long as he doesn't start throwing my luggage around. But I also understand if the other exiles don't rally to his cause if he's blaming them for being kicked off while demanding he alone be let back on the plane. (That's a good analogy)
Posted on 6/10/20 at 6:23 pm to Goldrush25
I haven’t watched the news at all during this. I see people going after others jobs on twitter and stuff for innocent comments. You can’t say anything with your real name attached to it. Face it man, a large portion of your movement are pieces of shite and they’ve co-opted the entire movement. They are the voice.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 7:29 pm to OleWar
That's interesting. Because any notion of pride and power from marginalized groups is seen as bravery and a rallying cry.
White man mentions it and it's racism.
White man mentions it and it's racism.
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