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Question for the all life matters crew here, sorry if redundant.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:52 pm
Genuinely curious because I just saw this and it’s possible it’s been brought up on the board because you can’t miss it.
But does anyone know if during the Boston bombings we did “Dallas Strong” “Miami Strong” “New York strong” or was it just Boston strong?
You know I’m just thinking, isn’t that the equivalent? yes all cities matter, but wasn’t Boston the main focus at that time and the reason why it was just “Boston Strong”? Like offcourse every city needs protection and support, but we weren’t villanizing Boston for being at the center of it. so why is the counter argument for Black Lives Matter all lives matter when after the Vegas shootings no one countered the issue with #SeattleStrong?
Just curious offcourse to see if the discussion has been had yet about that.
But does anyone know if during the Boston bombings we did “Dallas Strong” “Miami Strong” “New York strong” or was it just Boston strong?
You know I’m just thinking, isn’t that the equivalent? yes all cities matter, but wasn’t Boston the main focus at that time and the reason why it was just “Boston Strong”? Like offcourse every city needs protection and support, but we weren’t villanizing Boston for being at the center of it. so why is the counter argument for Black Lives Matter all lives matter when after the Vegas shootings no one countered the issue with #SeattleStrong?
Just curious offcourse to see if the discussion has been had yet about that.
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:53 pm to agregime1
Thank you for bringing week old internet memes to the board for discussion.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:54 pm to agregime1
Yes, it's been discussed but thank you for posting.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:55 pm to burdman
Yeah I was just curious lol, I know the board is heavy right leaning and was curious to see the response, but thanks.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:55 pm to agregime1
Because the slogan "Black Lives Matter" seems disingenuous when for every unarmed AA killed by police, there are over 1,000 killed by one another. And they don't seem to give a flying frick about that.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:56 pm to agregime1
The biggest issue is the movement is built off of a false narrative and they are toxic to people that disagree with them. They handle all dissenting voices the complete opposite way you should.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:56 pm to agregime1
White people get killed by cops more than black people, per capita, per encounter.
Cops get killed per capita more than any other group or profession in the first world.
So people who are objective and intelligent dismiss the bullshite, and become offended when the bullshite starts being used as a billy club by anarcho-commies.
Cops get killed per capita more than any other group or profession in the first world.
So people who are objective and intelligent dismiss the bullshite, and become offended when the bullshite starts being used as a billy club by anarcho-commies.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:57 pm to agregime1
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But does anyone know if during the Boston bombings we did “Dallas Strong” “Miami Strong” “New York strong” or was it just Boston strong?
Then wtf are we doing national demonstration because of this one case for?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:00 pm to ClientNumber9
Also add to the fact that just about every study ever done shows that you are just as or slightly more likely to be killed by police if you are white.
It would be the equivalent of the Boston bombings and 9/11 happening at the same time. And people arguing over who was the “strongest”
Actually, scratch that, it’s not even comparable, because we hear about every single black person that is killed by the police, and never hear anything about white people killed by the police. If you look at it without bias, you can only come to one conclusion, and that is, we need to raise awareness for the systemic racism towards whites by police and media
It would be the equivalent of the Boston bombings and 9/11 happening at the same time. And people arguing over who was the “strongest”
Actually, scratch that, it’s not even comparable, because we hear about every single black person that is killed by the police, and never hear anything about white people killed by the police. If you look at it without bias, you can only come to one conclusion, and that is, we need to raise awareness for the systemic racism towards whites by police and media
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:02 pm to agregime1
I pulled this from wikipedia fwiw but there was this same conversation during the "Black Power" movement.
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Bayard Rustin, an elder statesman of the Civil Rights Movement, was a harsh critic of Black Power in its earliest days. Writing in 1966, shortly after the March Against Fear, Rustin said that Black Power "not only lacks any real value for the civil rights movement, but [...] its propagation is positively harmful. It diverts the movement from a meaningful debate over strategy and tactics, it isolates the Negro community, and it encourages the growth of anti-Negro forces." He particularly criticized the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) and SNCC for their turn toward Black Power, arguing that these two organizations once "awakened the country, but now they emerge isolated and demoralized, shouting a slogan that may afford a momentary satisfaction but that is calculated to destroy them and their movement."[74]
The Black Power slogan was also criticized by Martin Luther King Jr., who stated that the black power movement "connotates black supremacy and an anti-white feeling that does not or should not prevail."[75] The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) also disapproved of Black Power, particularly Roy Wilkins, then the NAACP's executive director, who stated that Black Power was "a reverse Hitler, a reverse Ku Klux Klan...the father of hate and mother of violence."[11] The Black Power slogan was also met with opposition from the leadership of SCLC and the Urban League.[10]
Politicians in high office also spoke out against Black Power: in 1966, President Lyndon Johnson criticized extremists on both sides of the racial divide, stating "we are not interested in Black Power, and we're not interested in white power, but we are interested in American democratic power with a small 'd'".[76] At a NAACP rally the next day, Vice President Hubert Humphrey argued "Racism is racism and we must reject calls for racism whether they come from a throat that is white or one that is black."[77]
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:04 pm to agregime1
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This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:06 pm to agregime1
I'll attempt a legit answer.
When "[insert city] stong" is said, it is implied that the city is strong because America is strong. If during those times you said, it'll be ok because we're American strong instead of whatever city, no one would be mad at you. That makes it very different than what we're seeing right now and really makes it a terrible comparison. This "movement" is based on only one particular set of lives mattering. There is no umbrella under which to unite.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:06 pm to agregime1
Boston wasnt the first _____strong anyway
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:06 pm to TigerChief10
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The biggest issue is the movement is built off of a false narrative and they are toxic to people that disagree with them. They handle all dissenting voices the complete opposite way you should.
Some people are like that, but that's the case with any movement. They're the ones in front of a microphone, on TV, and they're the loudest. If you want to engage the zealots you can. There are level-headed individuals to engage as well that can discuss what's going on.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:07 pm to agregime1
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But does anyone know if during the Boston bombings we did “Dallas Strong” “Miami Strong” “New York strong” or was it just Boston strong?
Well, it’s kinda apples and oranges. White people are killed by cops, too. Look at the Daniel Shaver post yesterday as an example. You can look up the video if you can’t find the thread, but l will say it is graphic.
The way you should think of it is that Miami and Net York both got bombed, but for some reason only #NewYorkStrong is being professed.
Then, they parade the corpses around like giant show pieces. Then they shout you down for mentioning Miami. Then they loot and steal across the country. Then they all call you anti New York pieces of shite for even living in Miami unless you only say #NewYorkStrong.
That’s what the strongest advocates and leaders of the movement are like.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:07 pm to agregime1
no lives matter. you're all equally worthless
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:08 pm to agregime1
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But does anyone know if during the Boston bombings we did “Dallas Strong” “Miami Strong” “New York strong” or was it just Boston strong?
If I remember correctly the city of Boston didn't immediately blame Dallas or Miami or New York when the bombing occurred.
Black Lives Matter doesn't simply mean that black lives matter, because no one would disagree with that. It means that blacks are being slaughtered by white people and because of racism no one cares.
The All Lives Matter thing misses the mark. It argues simply that black lives matter as well as other races but again no one thinks otherwise.
The real argument should be against the ridiculous point of BLM - White people aren't slaughtering black people. That's where the discussion should begin and where it should stay.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:10 pm to Goldrush25
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There are level-headed individuals to engage as well that can discuss what's going on.
where are they? Because all I see is anyone not marching 100% in lockstep being crucified by the entire movement. If there were actually a good amount of decent people in this movement you wouldn't have seen the type of reaction you did to Brees's benign comments.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:12 pm to agregime1
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Just curious of course to see if the discussion has been had yet about that.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:15 pm to Ping Pong
Statistically, that is true, no life matters.
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