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re: Question for combat veterans that actually watch war movies

Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:22 pm to
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Death has a smell!


That smell of burnt human tissue......
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Worked with a guy who did 2 or 3 tours in Vietnam and was also in Panama.

He said Panama was some of the worst combat he was ever in.


Operation Just Cause was certainly intense but short. For a relatively new 2LT like myself, I had so much on my mind that it was pretty much a blur. My unit (1-504 PIR) jumped in after the 75th Rangers onto the civilian international airport. The airport opened 2 or 3 days later.

When I decided to go into the military it was a peacetime military. Then within months of getting to my unit we were in Panama then about 6-7 months later, we were deployed to Suadi Arabia waiting to roll into Iraq. I always knew I had shitty timing.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:29 pm to
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My unit (1-504 PIR) jumped in after the 75th Rangers onto the civilian international airport.
You have a mustard stain?
Posted by onthebay
Charleston
Member since Aug 2020
190 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:33 pm to
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My votes as a former Infantry Officer in no particular order:

- Saving Private Ryan
- Blackhawk Down
- We Were Soldiers Once and Young


Blackhawk Down captured the chaos better than most.
Hoping that someone knew what the hell was going on.
This post was edited on 3/27/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7274 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:33 pm to
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That smell of burnt human tissue......


Cordite. Concrete blown into powder. Hot grease on treads that have gone too far for the day. Burnt hair. Burnt flesh. Blood. Burnt blood. Punctured bowels and feces. Diesel fuel and kerosene burning all of it. And a good portion of it is on your gear and travels with you everywhere you go until you get back to a shower and a clean uniform. Even the tiniest flecks of flesh, blood, and shite on your clothing and your weapon because you can never get it 100% clean.

Hollywood actors who make their living by playing "make believe" in a pretend world make me ill with their portrayals. Rarely, if ever, will you see a Hollywood actor who is an actual combat veteran play a role in these movies.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:39 pm to
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That is an incredible story. We will never measure up.


I agree his story is incredible but disagree with the measuring up part. Quite a few “millennials” got killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obviously not the same amount but still thousands. I wasn’t there but I imagine walking or driving through the streets of Fallujah or Baghdad could be pretty terrifying at times, not knowing if that kid or woman has a suicide vest strapped to them, or where the snipers or roadside bombs are exactly.

I work with plenty of youngsters at the fire department that willingly go into burning buildings, stay up all night on the ambulance, or work hard cutting someone out of a car. We bash these kids too much and don’t give near enough credit to them. Any generation if put in position needing to measure up, will do it. Stupid shite kids say on social media that goes viral or what we get from the news is far from reality of how most young folks are

This post was edited on 3/27/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/27/21 at 3:56 pm to
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Cordite. Concrete blown into powder. Hot grease on treads that have gone too far for the day. Burnt hair. Burnt flesh. Blood. Burnt blood. Punctured bowels and feces. Diesel fuel and kerosene burning all of it. And a good portion of it is on your gear and travels with you everywhere you go until you get back to a shower and a clean uniform. Even the tiniest flecks of flesh, blood, and shite on your clothing and your weapon because you can never get it 100% clean.


You had to be armor or mech infantry.....I am a good ole fashion MEU/SOC light infantry guy
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7274 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:05 pm to
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You had to be armor or mech infantry.....I am a good ole fashion MEU/SOC light infantry guy


18 Alpha, but I spent a hell of a lot of time with those guys when training some of the indigenous population in tactics, ordnance, etc.

You're light infantry, huh? I always got a kick out of it when I heard y'all called "light infantry." Y'all had the heaviest rucks of anyone I ever saw!
This post was edited on 3/27/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17453 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:11 pm to
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You're light infantry, huh? I always got a kick out of it when I heard y'all called "light infantry." Y'all had the heaviest rucks of anyone I ever saw!


IKR....I weighed my combat load as a Wpns Plt Cmdr at 122 LBs.....that was brutal.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:19 pm to
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18 Alpha
Which SFGA?

I was a child of a lesser God in 3rd Group (AFG 2003).
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7274 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Which SFGA?


7th SFGA, but was called out briefly to go TDY with 5th. Why 7th? I have no freaking idea. I studied German, Russian, and Greek in college, and then got sent to deal with Latinos. Go figure. Uncle Sam is certainly known for making decisions based upon common sense, right?

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I was a child of a lesser God in 3rd Group (AFG 2003).




3rd had to have been pretty cool. Y'all don't get a lot of press stateside. That's definitely a good thing.
This post was edited on 3/27/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:41 pm to
One of my best friends (Chris), 65D, moved with 7th to Florida when they left Bragg. Earned a BSMV in Afghanistan early in the conflict manning a 240B during an ambush. Asked him what the hell he was thinking. He smiled and said it seemed like the right thing to do at the time. Crazy frick. Love him some long tabbers (though my buddy wasn’t tabbed - just loved being a doc with SF). Punched in my senior wings after my night AJ on Sicily. Great guy.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25617 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:46 pm to
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You have a mustard stain?


Yes. If I were still in it would be much "cooler" today but after Just Cause it seemed like half of Bragg had a star.

In fact, some argue the 82nd jump was just to get that particular adornment. I disagree because the field wasn't as secure as some people argue but don't care got cool shite for the uniform.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:55 pm to
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Yes.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64518 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 4:57 pm to
I never fought as an infantryman but most of Saving Private Ryan & Band of Brothers seemed rather realistic to me. I was a tanker in the First Gulf War though. In the movie Fury, the battle they fought against the Tiger I was pretty realistic for the most part, though at much closer range than any of the engagements I took part in.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 5:56 pm to
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Watched a documentary the other night about that from the perspective of the Afghani that risked his and his family’s life to save Luttrell. He had an entirely different recollection


Because Lurtrell’s story is highly fabricated.

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Are Navy Seals all notorious bullshitters?



Not all, but on average more than other special ops organizations
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6427 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 6:04 pm to
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Because Lurtrell’s story is highly fabricated.


I don’t know what’s true and what isn’t but I’m not questioning a Navy Seal especially someone that went through what he did.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 6:06 pm to
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Because Lurtrell’s story is highly fabricated.
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Not all, but on average more than other special ops organizations

Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10597 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 6:14 pm to
My Uncle was in the very first Ranger battalion under Col Darby. He said the only thing NOT accurate about the opening landing scene in Saving Pvt Ryan was the lack of smells.

“ Cordite. Concrete blown into powder. Hot grease on treads that have gone too far for the day. Burnt hair. Burnt flesh. Blood. Burnt blood. Punctured bowels and feces. Diesel fuel and kerosene burning all of it....”
This post was edited on 3/27/21 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20026 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 6:47 pm to
I hunted with an uncle who was in Normandy. He never spoke of the war and avoided any questions. Only once he mentioned that he saw a soldier’s head blow up and it was basically gone. I never pressed him for info.

A co-worker who served in Vietnam confided in me that he had to mow some people down who ran instead of stopping for questioning. He said it in a matter of fact way and said his orders were to do so. Those shot were not soldiers.
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