re: Question about the Algerian shemale boxer:

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exactly. Khleif is no different imo than the swimmer posing as a woman that got removed from representing America in the trials.

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You literally contradicted yourself.

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exactly. Khleif is no different imo than the swimmer posing as a woman that got removed from representing America in the trials.

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Tripling down on your ignorance, I see.

You should really consider wearing that helmet.

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I clearly stated that I believed she is a man posing as a woman.

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You believe the Algerian government sent a trans person to represent Algeria in the Olympics?

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Dallas, I understand your explanation, but the Olympic committee already has rules in place to deal with this. IF they actually wanted to.

Females have always been tested for testosterone levels. So in your case of people born with “both” sets of goods…..just test for testosterone levels.

It really is that easy…

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I never said both. Person was not born with both but was born with one that was under developed at birth, and a doctor or parent incorrectly chose to raise as female instead of correctly treating.

Testing testosterone levels helps more in cases of an actual female who just has slightly higher levels than normal or uses steroids herself to build muscle (and a large clit).

There is also more to it than just testing for testosterone levels at an event. Does all masculine development including bone density, frame size, and even muscle density built up over months or even a lifetime just completely disappear by getting testosterone levels down to a certain level by an event?

Also testing levels in the case of complete androgen insensitivity who can’t make use of testosterone at all and are the most feminine XY cases without therapy would show male levels of testosterone if not higher even though the testosterone is not benefiting them. This also can be slightly similar with some extreme cases of partial androgen insensitivity closer to the complete insensitivity level where they get a minimal benefit from their naturally produced testosterone but can test as high as men.

So if you want to include the least masculine and most feminine XY disorders without any hormone therapy in women’s sports their testosterone levels are going to be higher than women’s and into male ranges.

Just testing for testosterone levels is an overly simplistic and a “feel better” solution for a much more complex situation.

So it really is not that easy.

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…Unless you want to push a certain agenda.

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What certain agenda? Protecting women’s sports???

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Your anger seems to be with God

After all, Carini is an actual woman who wanted to fight an "actual woman" only

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you people "refuse" to understand this.

Taking about someone "dying" is a really cool perspective.

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She has XY chromosomes - that makes ‘her’ a man.

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If she has a DSD such as 46 XY MAIS, PAIS or CAIS, among many other potential causes, then she will present as a phenotypic female.

It's not like she chose to have a DSD.

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its pretty clear.

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the most confused person in this thread stating something is "pretty clear"

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She has XY chromosomes - that makes ‘her’ a man.

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TIL: we didn’t know which humans were male or female until the 1920s.

And also incorrect. The presence of a properly recognized and functioning Y chromosome causes male development. If either there is no Y chromosome present or it is non functioning, female development is completed. If there is a present and partially recognized/functioning Y chromosome, things get complicated.

You’re aware that all humans begin development as “female”, right?

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so considering her profession, she sorta won the genetic lottery...

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Right, I think the issue is that people found out that she was previously disqualified from competing in the past.