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question about Methodist church (dont delete please)
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:13 pm
Do they all spend so much time asking for money? here's what happened:
a few years back my family switched to Methodist. our church was great and the pastor never, ever asked the members to give money. the pastor was not a rich man by any means, lived a humble life, etc. so when we did give money i didnt feel like it was being wasted.
one day we're out of town and me and my daughter go to a local Methodist church for service. this is a very new, large and expensive looking church. pastor comes out in a fancy suit and spends the entire sermon talking about giving your money to the church. i think "well this might be a one off thing, at least i dont have to come back." fast forward to this year, we've moved. i go to the local Methodist church, and again, its a big expensive looking church. same story.....pastor comes out in a nice suit, spends the entire sermon asking for money. i havnt been back since.
i guess my first question is, what is the norm for this religion? i have no interest in attending a church where my money is being wasted on a pastor's big salary and completely over the top worship buildings (the last one i went to had a closed circuit television system - why does any church need that?). and secondly, is there any religion that doesnt put so much emphasis on giving your salary, or if not, doesnt waste the money on unnecessary things? i dont need to attend service at the Ritz Carlton.
a few years back my family switched to Methodist. our church was great and the pastor never, ever asked the members to give money. the pastor was not a rich man by any means, lived a humble life, etc. so when we did give money i didnt feel like it was being wasted.
one day we're out of town and me and my daughter go to a local Methodist church for service. this is a very new, large and expensive looking church. pastor comes out in a fancy suit and spends the entire sermon talking about giving your money to the church. i think "well this might be a one off thing, at least i dont have to come back." fast forward to this year, we've moved. i go to the local Methodist church, and again, its a big expensive looking church. same story.....pastor comes out in a nice suit, spends the entire sermon asking for money. i havnt been back since.
i guess my first question is, what is the norm for this religion? i have no interest in attending a church where my money is being wasted on a pastor's big salary and completely over the top worship buildings (the last one i went to had a closed circuit television system - why does any church need that?). and secondly, is there any religion that doesnt put so much emphasis on giving your salary, or if not, doesnt waste the money on unnecessary things? i dont need to attend service at the Ritz Carlton.
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:14 pm to Honky Lips
Methodist Church aka Catholic lite
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:14 pm to Honky Lips
quote:
Do they all spend so much time asking for money?
No, just the ones with the crosses on the building.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:15 pm to Honky Lips
Methodist pastors are paid by the main church, not directly by your donations. They also typically rotate very 7 years or so to a different church. Not sure if this answers your question.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:16 pm to BigPerm30
Lot of churches these days are like big football schools " build it and they will come". Talking about the recruits and the following $$$$$$
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:16 pm to Honky Lips
quote:
i dont need to attend service
Sounds like you answered your own question.
Ra'd to delete "No longer needed"
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:16 pm to Honky Lips
I've found they are all different and one of the things about the Northshore I miss is the church I went to. Haven't found one in Baton Rouge I care for.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:16 pm to Honky Lips
Mods pls delete this thread. OP isn't special.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:18 pm to Honky Lips
You probably hit both churches on their stewardship drive. It happens once a year for a Sunday or two. Churches have budgets that require money. That money comes from tithes and gifts. They have to have pledges in order to have an idea of a budget, so they have to request pledges & tithes. It's just part of it.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:18 pm to Honky Lips
I thought all Methodists did was throw pot luck dinners.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:19 pm to Lithium
quote:
I've found they are all different and one of the things about the Northshore I miss is the church I went to.
which one was that? if you dont mind me asking
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:20 pm to Lithium
quote:Sharp Rd?
I've found they are all different and one of the things about the Northshore I miss is the church I went to
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:21 pm to slacker130
I grew up baptist, and have bounced around to a lot of protestant churches, mostly baptist/methodist/anglican
I have never experienced continual browbeating about giving to the church. The only thing close to this would be during particular fundraising drives, like for a specific mission situation or for a new building (churches that pay cash for projects are of particular favor with me).
So anyway, my guess is that you're either overthinking/exaggerating, or that you just happened to show up during a specific time period.
I have never experienced continual browbeating about giving to the church. The only thing close to this would be during particular fundraising drives, like for a specific mission situation or for a new building (churches that pay cash for projects are of particular favor with me).
So anyway, my guess is that you're either overthinking/exaggerating, or that you just happened to show up during a specific time period.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:21 pm to tke857
quote:
Methodist Church aka Catholic lite
That's the Episcopals.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:21 pm to tke857
quote:
Methodist Church aka Catholic lite
Anglican light would be more appropriate since John Wesley was ordained by that church.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:21 pm to Honky Lips
Mainline Protestant denominations (Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians et al) are bleeding members to the opposite ends of the Christian spectrum: the non-denominationalsim end and the orthodox end (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox). I imagine that times are getting tough.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:30 pm to AUveritas
Are Catholic rolls really filling up these days?
I agree with you about non-denominational moves, especially to large P&W centered churches.
I agree with you about non-denominational moves, especially to large P&W centered churches.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:33 pm to Honky Lips
I cannot tell you how many brand new big shiny churches I've been to in my life with expensive cars and very important people, and hear lots of sermons about money, a watered down message, and all of which seems to be curtailed to the largest donors.
Then I experience old smaller, less ostentatious churches with old pickups and I get much different messages, more friendly people, a significantly more pleasant and welcoming experience, and much less watered down message.
I tend to prefer the latter by miles over the places to be on Sunday. Is a struggle though in finding that place where you feel like you fit, or at least it has been for me.
Then I experience old smaller, less ostentatious churches with old pickups and I get much different messages, more friendly people, a significantly more pleasant and welcoming experience, and much less watered down message.
I tend to prefer the latter by miles over the places to be on Sunday. Is a struggle though in finding that place where you feel like you fit, or at least it has been for me.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:39 pm to AUveritas
quote:
Mainline Protestant denominations (Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians et al) are bleeding members to the opposite ends of the Christian spectrum: the non-denominationalsim end and the orthodox end (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox). I imagine that times are getting tough.
Interesting phenomenon. I recently talked to two separate friends of mine, one Episcopalian and one Lutheran who are leaving their current churches because they feel like their pastors are really aggressively pushing what you might call a liberal/progressive worldview. Rather than go nondenom the Episcopalian is going Anglican Church of North America and evidently there is some more conservative branch of Lutheranism as well. I'm Catholic personally so I don't totally get everything that's going on in Protestantism broadly right now, but it definitely seems like things are changing. It's really interesting and shows how culturally divided the country really is right now IMO.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:46 pm to Honky Lips
That's what turned me off
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