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Question about Employer Discrimination Limits
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:51 pm
On what grounds is an employer allowed to discriminate during the hiring and (more directly) assessing work productivity of an individual.
Selecting candidates for jobs is inherently biased, so on what grounds can an employer be blamed for workplace discrimination or simply bad work ethics.
I am asking because by default, an employer is not obligated to give anyone an opportunity. I always assumed the free market worked itself out.
Given employment trends of the between black, whites, and Hispanics, it could be seen as a skewed market.
Government mandated higher wages hurt the minorities more overall, which also skew the purpose of a free market.
ETA: I am not making excuses for myself. I know that I am not the most stellar candidate. I honestly was just curious to know how much bias played a role in employment. I have no means to change it nor do I want to.
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 7:03 pm
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Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:53 pm to volod
You have to give blacks the job no matter their qualifications
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:54 pm to volod
In Louisiana, an employer can discriminate against anyone who is not in a "protected class" under federal or state law. Examples are: age, sex, religion, race, color, national origin, disability, sickle cell trait, smoker (Louisiana state law), veteran's status.
There are a lot of anti-retaliation statutes where you can't discriminate against someone for filing a complaint under specified laws such as workers comp, OSHA, FLSA (the overtime and minimum wage law), etc.
There are a lot of anti-retaliation statutes where you can't discriminate against someone for filing a complaint under specified laws such as workers comp, OSHA, FLSA (the overtime and minimum wage law), etc.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:54 pm to volod
Sorry you were born black.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:57 pm to volod
It couldn't possibly be that someone else was better qualified for the job eh?
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:57 pm to volod
Huh???!
95% of people get hired by having connections inside the company plain and simple. Businesses want to make risk adverse hires so they'll hire an above average person whom someone will vouch for and put their name on the line for over an outstanding prospect who is an unknown.
95% of people get hired by having connections inside the company plain and simple. Businesses want to make risk adverse hires so they'll hire an above average person whom someone will vouch for and put their name on the line for over an outstanding prospect who is an unknown.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:58 pm to volod
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Question about Employer Discrimination Limits by volod
And not a single question mark was used.
I know you're a recent graduate, I also know what it's like to be a recent graduate looking for a job. It's frustrating as shite and it's very easy to blame that frustration on external factors. That's lazy and counterproductive. Even if those factors are real, it doesn't serve you to recognize them. Just keep working and trying to better yourself, don't look for excuses.
Sorry for the preaching, I've been drinking and I get what you're going through.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:58 pm to volod
Just find a got dang job already. My first engineering job, I told them money wasn't an issue. I would work for cheap. Was hired on the spot. You need to realize it might be you.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:59 pm to volod
My question is why does a certain demo scream racism when generally their shitty work is what gets them fired? Most people just take their lumps and move on. Heaven forbid you fire someone who isn't performing up to expectations of the company.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:59 pm to volod
You're asking this in which could not be further from the right forum.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:00 pm to chinhoyang
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In Louisiana, an employer can discriminate against anyone who is not in a "protected class" under federal or state law. Examples are: age, sex, religion, race, color, national origin, disability, sickle cell trait, smoker (Louisiana state law), veteran's status.
this is correct....only "illegal discrimination" is prohibited. discrimination against people not included in "protected classes" is not illegal.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:00 pm to volod
I always assumed one of the reasons most job descriptions for certain jobs are overlisted ( i.e. "must be fluent in German" listed for an accounting job or "Master's degree preferred" for a sales position) is to protect the employer against hiring "discrimination" complaints of unhired applicants.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:02 pm to LucasP
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I know you're a recent graduate, I also know what it's like to be a recent graduate looking for a job. It's frustrating as shite and it's very easy to blame that frustration on external factors. That's lazy and counterproductive. Even if those factors are real, it doesn't serve you to recognize them. Just keep working and trying to better yourself, don't look for excuses.
I am not making excuses for myself. I know that I am not the most stellar candidate. I honestly was just curious to know how much bias played a role in employment. I have no means to change it nor do I want to.
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Just find a got dang job already. My first engineering job, I told them money wasn't an issue. I would work for cheap. Was hired on the spot. You need to realize it might be you.
I dont ask for the maximum when applying to new jobs. I make it quite clear I will work at reduced rate.
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:04 pm to volod
What did you graduate in and what do you want to do?
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:06 pm to upgrayedd
I didn't rent a house to a black dude one time because he rubbed me the wrong way and he made a huge deal of it. I wound up renting it to a black lesbian couple.
Yep, so racist.
Yep, so racist.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:06 pm to volod
Sounds like you don't interview well. You need to cut out the whole "you think your smart" bullshite out. A hiring manager will see through that facade every time. Furthermore, they're looking to see how you mesh with their team. How good are your people skills?
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:07 pm to Napoleon
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Yep, so racist.
When in doubt, racism
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:08 pm to TigerBait1971
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What did you graduate in and what do you want to do?
oh frick off
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:16 pm to Napoleon
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black lesbian couple
Double discrimination cancels each other out.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:19 pm to volod
I worked as a HR intern during my college years. We always hired the best people for the job and student athletes.
Firing was a completely different story.
Firing was a completely different story.
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