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re: Prosecutors say Marcellus Williams is innocent. He’s scheduled to be executed tonight.

Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:01 pm to
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Going to still disagree with you, the death penalty should involve premeditated murders.


If the killer carried a loaded weapon into a convenience store robbery, and killed an innocent store worker, it’s pretty safe to say the killing was premeditated.

If they didn’t plan on firing the weapon they wouldn’t have loaded it. Or carried a firearm at all.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3331 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:03 pm to
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13891627/texas-travis-mullis-final-words-death-row-execution-murder-son.html

Because there are monsters like that out there.

Because premeditated robbery does not equate to premeditated murder.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8442 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:07 pm to
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Nonetheless, this contributes to why I'm generally anti-death penalty (as practiced in the US). It takes forever, leads to all sorts of second guessing, and by the time you get to the punishment it often feels empty.
this

“May the death penalty, an unworthy punishment still used in some countries, be abolished throughout the world.”
-Saint John Paul II
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
in the transfer portal
Member since Dec 2009
2268 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:10 pm to
What is your son's name?
You know..,the felon. The teenager who you say can barely wipe his own arse and probably couldn't make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich if he was starving to death.
What did his mother name him?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3331 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

If the killer carried a loaded weapon into a convenience store robbery, and killed an innocent store worker, it’s pretty safe to say the killing was premeditated.

If they didn’t plan on firing the weapon they wouldn’t have loaded it. Or carried a firearm at all.


Plenty of robberies happen with a gun and no one dies, idiots think that it will all go easy.

Again I'm not saying don't imprison for a long time, but if you try to execute everyone like that you will lose any support for the death penalty.
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:45 pm to
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The VAST majority of people when asked would consider the gov't inept when it comes to doing things. Why we think they can effectively arbiter life and death is comical. I understand wanting the death penalty, but even being wrong ONE time makes it not worth it and there's NO WAY the gov't can get it right 100% of the time.


The government doesn't sentence people to death.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:10 pm to
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Nice discussion of the “Innocence Project” and the fraud that it is.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23154 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by Ncook
Member since Feb 2019
634 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:11 pm to
The end of a career criminal
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23510 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:17 pm to
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Williams' last statement, which was written down and witnessed on September 24, 2024, was, "All Praise Be To Allah In Every Situation!!!"

That tells me he did do it
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3630 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:26 pm to
The tragedy here is this monster killed his baby in 2008. Death penalty should be carried out within the year. Ridiculous they live so long.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8312 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:31 am to
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Because premeditated robbery does not equate to premeditated murder.


What do think William’s plan was?
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Williams lay in wait in her apartment till she came home and stabbed her 43 times, leaving the knife lodged in her neck before making off with her purse. Her purse was found in his car and he confessed to two separate people. Her name was Felicia Gayle.


What do you think the below are trying to do? Especially lying about DNA evidence exonerating Williams and using terms like lynching when there was over 2 decades of due process before death penalty.
quote:

Ibram X. Kendi
@ibramxk
Tonight, Missouri lynched Marcellus Williams. DNA evidence proved he was innocent. It didn’t matter. Because the United States is a serial killer of Black people
quote:

Tristan Snell
@TristanSnell
The same 6 justices who claim to be “pro-life” just signed off on the lynching of an innocent Black man


Sulu has had too much shoved up his arse and has abused too many boys to discuss innocence and not valuing life or justice.
quote:

George Takei
@GeorgeTakei
A nation that allows an innocent man to be executed does not value justice.

A governor and a High Court that do nothing to stop such a travesty do not value life

This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
87173 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:43 am to
reading those tweets or whatever you call them now made my brain hurt.

George Takei reminds me of a very effeminate lemming who follows the herd at every turn.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2202 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:26 am to
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Because there are monsters like that out there. Because premeditated robbery does not equate to premeditated murder.


Following your thought process, since the murder of his son wasn’t premeditated he shouldn’t have received the death penalty.

Murder is murder. That poor baby is just as dead as a convenience store clerk gunned down during a robbery.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2202 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:34 am to
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Plenty of robberies happen with a gun and no one dies, idiots think that it will all go easy. Again I'm not saying don't imprison for a long time, but if you try to execute everyone like that you will lose any support for the death penalty.


Won’t lose my support. Or the support of many.

The people protesting the death penalty are like the same loud minority who protest everything. But since that minority is loud and present, while the majority is busy with mundane things like a job, they get the publicity.

That dead store clerk likely has a family that depends on them, and will miss them. That dead store clerk misses out on life experiences, likewise their family does as well.

All because a loser with no impulse control decides to rob them, then to add insult to injury they decide to shoot them.

They’re animals, sociopaths, they have no redeeming qualities. Doesn’t hurt my feelings one iota if they’re removed permanently from the gene pool.
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:40 am to
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This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 11:41 am
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
24406 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:41 am to
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Apparently none of your other replies saw Pulp Fiction.


Huh?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15841 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 5:45 pm to
Okay, well, you aren't really going to find too many cases that "perfect" for you to use the death penalty on.

Just watch five or six episodes of various murder trials on NBC Dateline or CBS 48 Hours.

It's always reliant on prison informers, fellow suspects who become snitches to get off, murky videos where you say "That KINDA looks like the guy but...:\", etc.

These are typical cases - they are never as perfect as you say -

LINK /

This is a bit long but well worth your time to read
LINK /


Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3331 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 5:49 pm to
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What do think William’s plan was?

Dude in Williams's case this wasn't an 18 year old who went into a gas station(premeditated), panicked and shot someone while running out(not premeditated), Williams is a good death penalty case.

My point is we have to try cases based on intent to kill, 43 times is intent.

Some people here would hang every drunk driver.

Some wouldn't kill a serial killer.

There is a good middle.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3331 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Following your thought process, since the murder of his son wasn’t premeditated he shouldn’t have received the death penalty.

It was premeditated, that's obvious from the case he was going to kill his victim.

Both are just as dead as someone you back up over in a parking lot after having one drink too many.

There has to be a limit somewhere to hang em high.
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