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Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:43 am to N2cars
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No, giving away too much aid, both domestic and foreign, is what got us here today.
Truth
The amount we've been subsidizing the rest of the world is staggaring, not even talking about the weird USAID type stuff. Just in defense and medical fields alone.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:51 am to N2cars
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No, giving away too much aid, both domestic and foreign, is what got us here today. Capitalism is awesome, except when you make it into socialism.
Aiding an explosion in foreign manufacturing jobs and aiding investors in companies with sweetheart government contracts is a large percentage of that aid.
If government jobs can be placed by private companies in a manner that creates more decent American jobs, I'm all for it.
If that even further reduces the amount of good jobs in America to enrich a few wealthy friends of politicians, I'm against it.
Don't really care about labels as much as bottom line results.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:54 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:57 am to dukke v
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:57 am to The Third Leg
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These guys just know that brother Elon is a hero Republican doing gods work for Donnie. It ain’t no stimmy, they’re just returning the money to people who didn’t pay it in. Totary different.
Don’t look out the back door either. Nothing going on in the alley. I assure you, these technocrats are not doing anything to enrich themselves, they’re saving America—just look at all the money they’re saving us! So much that they can write us all checks and not call it a stimulus! Stimulus is bad, and it causes inflation, don’t you remember?
That's not even my implication.
It's much simpler and more reasonable than that: by using this shiny object and focusing on "Waste" in an area that can't fix the issue, they avoid discussing the unpopular reality of what an actual plan to fix our deficit-debt will require (cutting Social Security and Medicare)
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:58 am to Jim Rockford
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I have yet to see proof that they've found any of this stuff. All I see are tweets that some people are accepting as gospel based on their confirmation bias.
What? They've posted countless times the contracts that are being cancelled and showing you the exact contract.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:00 am to JoylessMurderball
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They've posted countless times the contracts that are being cancelled and showing you the exact contract.
Who is "They"?
DOGE and Elon don't have the authority to do anything other than advise. They can't cancel contracts, legally.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:00 am to JoylessMurderball
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What? They've posted countless times the contracts that are being cancelled and showing you the exact contract.
a lot of these cancelled contracts have already been paid out or mostly paid out
you can look up every contract they post about as they are all public info
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:03 am to TDTOM
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You seem pretty mad.
You seem pretty gay.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:04 am to Salmon
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a lot of these cancelled contracts have already been paid out or mostly paid out
you can look up every contract they post about as they are all public info
Were they going to be renewed?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:04 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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PROS
I just spent about $10K on a new HVAC system for the house, so it'd be nice to put some of back into my savings because I'd rather have used the money for something fun.
My first year of getting a pool pass is $800 instead of $400 like the subsequent years, so it will make me less mad at my HOA for doubling my price the first year to use my pool. They are making me pay the out of neighborhood price the first year, I guess since we have a "voluntary" HOA fee that's how they get everyone when they move in.
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CONS
IDK we should probably just pay down our debt and not bandaid the problem more like we tend to do with debt as Americans.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:04 am to IndianMoundFireworks
Will not happen. Nor should it.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:05 am to The Third Leg
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You seem pretty gay.
Interested?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:06 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Pro - a small pittance of my stolen money back
Con - inflation
Con - inflation
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:06 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Were they going to be renewed?
I don't think we know that yet. Next CR is in a few weeks.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think we know that yet. Next CR is in a few weeks.
Seems to be a pretty crucial component of the post I responded to, no?
Not sure how one can make that point as a counter-argument without knowing if the contracts were set to be renewed or not.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:10 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Seems to be a pretty crucial component of the post I responded to, no?
Not sure how one can make that point as a counter-argument without knowing if the contracts were set to be renewed or not.
Well considering DOGE doesn't have the authority to cancel anything, and the money has already been spent, I think the CR is the only real piece of information that matters, as it's going to determine the amount of spending/borrowing fedgov engages in next.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:12 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Seems to be a pretty crucial component of the post I responded to, no?
the contracts that I pulled did not appear to be renewals
I didn't pull every contract
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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Well considering DOGE doesn't have the authority to cancel anything, and the money has already been spent, I think the CR is the only real piece of information that matters, as it's going to determine the amount of spending/borrowing fedgov engages in next.
Much of the discussion revolves around future savings though. That is kind of the point
I think some of y'all are getting way too hung up on semantics when people say DOGE needs to do something. They know they don't have the power to actual cancel the contracts, its just simpler to say it that way.
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