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re: Problems with the premix fuel for small 2 stroke engines?

Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60657 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:23 pm to
I use it exclusively.

Two years no carb issues. Was having starting and running issues yearly until the switch.

Two gallons a year is all I need.

Will gladly pay the price xtra
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:52 pm to
Your blower is a 4 stroke
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14499 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:21 am to
quote:

Not possible, it is in a sealed can, residual solids commonly called "varnish" left in a carburetor are the result of evaporation which cant happen without exposure to the atmosphere. Gasoline will also diminish in its available energy by the evaporation of soluble butanes to the atmosphere. Gasoline stored in a sealed container will remain useable almost indefinitely.
troof
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8768 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:45 am to
Nah my blower is a 2stroke. I started using that (or trying to) bc damn non ethanol is so hard to find. Just was curious if this was a common problem.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9461 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:48 am to
When we were kids we used to get 40 W lube oil from a tank battery gas compressor. Would mix it with .28 cents per gallon Billups gasoline to run in my 6 h.p. outboard motor. I still have the motor and it still runs.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17319 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:08 am to
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:30 am to
It’s funny because most the mfg test with this stuff.
True fuel was the first one to hit the market.
When they test them they actually run hand held products 5 days a week 8 to 10 hours a day in the field. After a few weeks they take random test by bringing in units and tearing them down or sending some to emissions testing. I been to the testing facilities and they exclusively run truefuel for their test.

When I recommended it to customers I rarely if ever see those units come back for fuel related issues. I have seen a few issues people have 4 strokes that someone put 2 stroke premixed fuel in.

99% of the problems I see with hand held product mowers, riders, and zero turns is with ethanol fuel separating even after using a fuel stabilizer or sticking from fuel stabilizer in the fuel. I would rather people use ethanol it has made me rich and I still make a lot of money off my shops fixing these issues.

This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 5:32 am
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11509 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:32 am to
Gave up on ALL 2 cycle engines a long time ago...top of the line long run battery equip. is the only way to maintain a regular sized yard !
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2765 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:50 am to
i have an old echo blower that i've been limping along on gas/oil for several years. it is very cold natured and sometimes just won't run up to full throttle. i switched to trufuel, and it starts every time with little or no choke, and idles immediately. no problems running up to full throttle. it's worth $20 per year not to fight it. chain saw runs much better on it too.
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2765 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:55 am to
my first outboard was a 1962 johnson 70 (i think). it ran a 16/1 mixture, using 30w non-detergent motor oil.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:05 am to
This is all real simple. stop using ethanol fuels.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48794 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:06 am to
Didn’t even know they sold such stuff. Why would you not mix you own? If someone lacks the ability to do this they probably shouldn’t be operating any type of equipment.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22272 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:10 am to
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that stuff is a ripoff



I can buy a can of it for less than $20 that will last me 2 years or more for my small yard. Or I can try to hunt down some ethanol free gas somewhere near me (can't remember the last time I saw it), hope it has no water in it, mix it, and save maybe $10 over that two years. No thanks. I'll just buy the can.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49618 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:22 am to
I use TruFuel in all of my small hand tool motors exclusively and never had any problems. But before it came out I mixed my own and never had any problems with that. I have no “season” my gear runs all year long. Take care of your tools and maintain them and it doesn’t matter which one you use, even ethanol if you run all the time. Having said that I do not buy ethanol gas - I have several non ethanol locations close and run all of my 4 wheelers, mixers, equipment on it as they might sit a bit longer.

Everything else, including lawnmowers, tractors etc...is diesel.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73155 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:26 am to
Seems silly to pay that much more for gas.

Get 93 octane ethanol free, put stabilizer in it and mix it yourself.
Very easy to do.
I also write the date I got the gas on a label on the can.

Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9461 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:29 am to
Napoleon nailed it again. 93 octane. Higher octane gas.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:31 am to
quote:

that much more
I mean y'all are making it out to be as though it costs hundreds of dollars a can. The shite is only a few dollars more. And a lot of us have seen the difference in performance.

If a few dollars more is that big of a deal to you, you need to get a 2nd job.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73155 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:33 am to
It doesn't matter on the engine that much being a low compression.one cylinder. I just find that 93 octane seems to sit better.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73155 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:38 am to
I honestly have no idea what it costs and I'm not frugal.
I just remember that canned emergency gas that screwed up cars and was pulled.

I think it's silly to pay extra when you don't need to.
I'll make a u-turn to save 10¢ a gallon for gas on my way to get a $10 grilled cheese sandwich.

It's not the money, but the principal.

I could afford to give a dollar to every bum I see, but I don't like just burning money. Some do.

I'm also set in my ways.


Though I say this and totally forget that we hired a company to cut the grass now. $120 a month, so I can be lazy.


But...if I need two stroke gas, I got 50:1 and 35:1 waiting.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:49 am to
I've mixed my own 2 stroke gas for 30+ years, and over the last 10 years got tired of killing weed eater after weed eater. Even with non ethanol gas. I started buying the premix stuff, and problem solved. All I'm saying. Apparently others in this thread have seen the same performance difference. Don't know what it is, but the shite burns clean as hell.

Now one thing I would definitely watch out for is using stabilizers in your gas for lawnmowers. I damn near killed mine using that garbage. It had some sort of a chemical reaction and gummed up the fuel system.
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