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Problems with the premix fuel for small 2 stroke engines?

Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:08 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:08 pm
Anyone else had issues with the premix stuff you can buy at Walmart. My blower refuses to run on this stuff. I’ve tried it with 3 different cans, I always have to end up dumping it out and going back with regular gas oil mix.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98181 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:10 pm to
No telling how long that stuff sits on the shelf. It probably turned to varnish.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36517 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:11 pm to
Yea I work on them sometimes, just use the regular gas oil mix, it’s the best way. Using non ethanol gas for small engines is best as well.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28586 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:16 pm to



This works just fine with my echo weed eater.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22385 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:18 pm to
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This works just fine with my echo weed eater.



I use that same stuff... weed eater runs like a top
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37520 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:18 pm to
that stuff is a ripoff. I've ran a weed eater and chainsaw with gas and a splash of motor oil my entire life
Posted by HFD22
Member since Sep 2016
78 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:19 pm to
Yes 50:1 works for me . Has a two year sl
Posted by Elephino
2nd floor, stall 3. Bring paper
Member since Sep 2008
519 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:34 pm to
I use it a lot and it works fine. It runs a little rich. Hard to run things at low or half throttle. Wide open = no problem.
Posted by ELLSSUU
Member since Jan 2005
7322 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:39 pm to
Yes. Used it one time in the Stihl Weedeater and Echo Blower. Both stopped working the same day. Never again.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15097 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:40 pm to
Paying $20+ a gallon for pre-mixed is crazy when you can mix your own non-ethanol gas and oil for about $3 a gallon
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19440 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Paying $20+ a gallon for pre-mixed is crazy when you can mix your own non-ethanol gas and oil for about $3 a gallon


This.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28259 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:04 pm to
We used to see some issues with it from time to time. It would make a glaze over the carb diaphragm and make it hard as a rock. Not all the time but every time we saw that happen it was when someone used pre-mix.

I still don't understand why there's a market for the stuff. Like $5 gets you a gallon of non-ethanol premium gas and Stihl synthetic mixing oil. It feels like it solves a problem that was really never there
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:05 pm to
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that stuff is a ripoff. I've ran a weed eater and chainsaw with gas and a splash of motor oil my entire life



I'm pretty sure most people are well aware of the fact they're paying for the convenience.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:05 pm to
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No telling how long that stuff sits on the shelf. It probably turned to varnish.


Not possible, it is in a sealed can, residual solids commonly called "varnish" left in a carburetor are the result of evaporation which cant happen without exposure to the atmosphere. Gasoline will also diminish in its available energy by the evaporation of soluble butanes to the atmosphere. Gasoline stored in a sealed container will remain useable almost indefinitely.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:07 pm to
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I'm pretty sure most people are well aware of the fact they're paying for the convenience.



It would be even more convenient to pay someone to do the job for them. "Hey, look at me! I do my own yardwork and pay out the arse for gas! That makes me smart!"
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131370 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:09 pm to
I mix my own and use an additive that is suppose to neutralize the ethanol.

I have all echo stuff.

No issues -- ever.


Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3579 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:11 pm to
Yep, fouls the plug and will barely run at idle.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:18 pm to
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It would be even more convenient to pay someone to do the job for them. "Hey, look at me! I do my own yardwork and pay out the arse for gas! That makes me smart!"


People buy the 2.6oz motor oil all the time when you could buy a gallon. People buy a gallon when you could buy 5 gallons.

This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56018 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:45 pm to
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My blower refuses to run on this stuff. I’ve tried it with 3 different cans


They make different mixes for different brands. are you sure you are using the correct fuel for your engine requirements?

I had some regular mixed fuel go bad and frick up my string trimmer a couple of years ago....switched to the tru fuel and have not had a single problem since. It has two year shelf life once opened and almost unlimited while sealed.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16566 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:59 pm to
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Anyone else had issues with the premix stuff you can buy at Walmart. My blower refuses to run on this stuff. I’ve tried it with 3 different cans, I always have to end up dumping it out and going back with regular gas oil mix.


Something is wrong with your blower then. I use gas/oil mix during the season for my trimmers and blower then run the last tank of the season on TruFuel. My chainsaws are run on TruFuel then emptied before storage after use. Zero varnish problems, zero fouling. I use Stihl Ultra 2-stroke oil with 93 octane fuel and marine Stabil when I mix. Echo Red Armor is very good too. Pre-mixed aren't gasoline based, they use a much more stable distillate that doesn't varnish like gasoline will if any is left in the carburetor during storage. I've rehabbed an old Echo hedge trimmer with the stuff and I've made my dad switch over to it too since he almost killed his Husqvarna trimmer with his fuel/oil mixing method.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 11:00 pm
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